Aboriginal rock art in NSW.

Submitted: Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 19:58
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Would anybody like to tell me the whereabouts of some good aboriginal rock art sites in NSW ? I know about the ones at Bondi , around Sydney Harbour and at West Head on Pittwater , but I need some new stuff to visit .

Thanks ,

Willie .
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Reply By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 20:19

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 20:19
Engraving sites in Kuringai NP and across the Hawkesbury including in the Australian Walkabout Park.

Then further north to Wolumbi and the other park areas up in the Hunter, there are more substantial paintings (rather than engravings) ... Pokolbin, Mindaribba and further north.

Of course, you can head out West too ... there are absolutely heaps in NSW.

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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:09

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:09
Andrew ,
Can you be a tad more specific re Hunter , or should I Google things and try to find them that way ?
Thanks ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:54

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:54
Yes, well Yengo NP and Watagans NP in particular, but the difficult thing is finding the folks willing and able to give you directions, or better still go and show you the cultural history of the place.

You need to work on the rangers to suggest some elders of the traditional owners who can show you around ideally. They are not always about, and their community is off-limits, and their mobile phones not always on, and their voicemails less often answered, but when you do get them, and when you can get with them, they have lots of info, are lots of help and very open and willing in my experience.

You might get help from the Biaime Centre Art Gallery place in Pokolbin.

Mt. Yengo is a major sacred site - lots of the Biaime dreaming is based around there. Most of the sites around the area have intriguing, complex and interconnected stories related to Mt Yengo Biaime dreaming.

Barragurra and Finchley are reasonably accessible including a boardwalk thing and have interpretive signs. These are nothing compared to the hundreds of less accessible sites in the area which you might be shown, and that are not so affected by vandalism etc.

I hope that helps a little, but there are some things I have been asked not to pass around and I respect that.

There's some good 4WDing and walking there to be had too.

Cheers
Andrew.
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Reply By: Max - Sydney - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 20:21

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 20:21
Willie

The best I know in the state is at Mt Grenfell Historic Site. Its years since we went there but our daughters were doing art at high school at the time and were rapt. Lots of art, interesting to me, and not too hard to get to - once you have reached Cobar.

Full info at Site Link

There are some in Dhurag NP just over the Hawkesbury at Wiseman's Ferry but not open to the public I am told and nowhere near the huge caves at Mt Grenfell.

Cheers
Max
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:11

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:11
Thanks Max ,
I actually have driven past that turnoff many times and it is on my to do list . Maybe I will get there next month , if I don't get on my camel trip out of Alice Springs .
Willie .
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Reply By: Redback - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 20:39

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 20:39
Willie there are some in the Ryde area, close to home mate, you may need to contact the indiginous community of the area or Ryde T.A.F.E. for more info.

Also on Blackfellows Hand Track near Lithgow there is some rock art, close to the road to Newnes.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:12

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:12
Baz ,

That is really great . I will contact the TAFE tomorrow .

Thanks ,

Willie .
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Reply By: On Patrol - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:01

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:01
Red Hand Cave, Blue Mtns NP, Glenbrook.
Not far from home.
Colin.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:14

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:14
Colin ,
Good one . I will put that on my to do list . I might try and talk Gramps into a picnic .
Thanks ,
Willie .
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:31

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:31
Yengo Nat Park (Central Coast) has one nice example of rock carvings on the sandstone. There is a wooden walk way around it, and I think it is worth a look. The local NPWS office in Gosford can give you more info, but it is easy to find.

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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:59

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 21:59
Thanks Jack , I will check this out too .

Willie .
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Follow Up By: On Patrol (Aust.) - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 07:07

Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 07:07
Willy,
Yengo NP, rock carving site, Yango Track, S32 58.685 E151 00.801 co-ordinates.
Wooden walkway has been removed and so has signage, very easy to miss the site.

Burragurra, is a bit of a steep walk up the hill but worth the effort, on the southern end of the Boree Track, Yengo NP. Burragurra co-ordintes S33 06.923 E151 02.203.
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Reply By: Member - Jezza (NSW) - Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 22:53

Monday, Feb 19, 2007 at 22:53
Hi Willie,

Can recommend the Mutawintji National Park, bit of a drive but well worth it. Check out this link Site Link
. From memory there is a picture of one/some of the white explorers (Sturt perhaps) that the aboriginals must have seen walking up that way. The local aboriginal community do a guided tour - it's the only way to get in.

Cheers,
Jezza.
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Follow Up By: On Patrol (Aust.) - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 07:18

Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 07:18
Mutawintji is a highly recomended site.

I do however find it hard to belive that Ochre spat onto rocks lasts for thousands of years and painted glazed ceramic tiles from Greece and Rome only hold their colour (Indoors) for just 2000+ years. Maybe I'm a cynic.

Our guide last September was a riot, and made our visit a memorable one. Ask them the story of the Uni art students from Melbourne and the huge rock carving they tried to steal in a KombiVan, very funny.
Colin.
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Follow Up By: Max - Sydney - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 13:23

Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 13:23
Colin

As I understand it the ochre etc does not last for long at all. An important part of the ceremonies of the people of the area was the repainting of the art work regularly. From memory it was entrusted to very specific people in the group because it told the dreaming stories.

Occasionally you see work that has recently been repainted but sadly the skills and traditions have often been lost.

Max

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Follow Up By: On Patrol (Aust.) - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 17:39

Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 17:39
Thanks Max.
That explains a lot of things to this old 10 Pound Tourist that I am.
Regards, Colin.
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Follow Up By: Max - Sydney - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 22:07

Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 22:07
No worries Colin - you can rely on my in depth set of prejudices - but don't bet the farm on their accuracy! All I know about archeology, geology, ecology etc comes from reading the signage in National Parks!

Its actually one of the major reasons we enjoy travel - slowly getting a bit of an idea what this place is about.

Cheers
Max
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Reply By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 00:01

Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 00:01
Bobbin Head in Kuringai Nat Park has a few engravings very close to the car park
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 09:00

Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 09:00
Hi Willie
Missed you on Sat. at Kembla- a few domestic chores to take care of.
There are a few aboriginal sites around the Bindook area on the way to Yerranderie.
There is a large flat rock area with many indications of food preparation and stone work. Under the overhangs at the North side of this area is quite a few not so obvious sites with evidence.
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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 09:22

Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 09:22
Willie

And when you are finished with NSW I can show you a couple of hundred sites in the NT...:-D
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Reply By: Member - John T (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 10:03

Tuesday, Feb 20, 2007 at 10:03
G'day Willie

I lived at Brooklyn on the Hawkesbury River a few years back. There are some great rock carvings if you know where to look not far off the Great North Walk between Brooklyn and Berowra. Not sure if anyone else on the Forum knows of them but I used to take friends there for picinc lunches. There are more in the Moogamara Nature Reserve on the old Pacific H'way between Cowan and Brooklyn but you cannot get in there most of the year. Some of the places you can walk in that general part of the country are just magnificent. Have a walk into Peats Crater in the Nature Reserve - lava flow in the middle of the sandstone. And you can walk all the way to Peats Bight Restrauent (spelling), have lunch and then walk/boat or fly out. This restraunt is only accessible by water - hence the boat/seaplane requirement.

Cheers

John
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 at 11:11

Wednesday, Feb 21, 2007 at 11:11
Thanks again everyone . I have printed out this post and I am now searching with Google for more specific information on these spots .

Willie .
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