80/100 series

Hi there Tour Boy, Yes very true about not buying for fuel efficiency, but also want to be able to run the thing. Under the 20 isnt so bad but if its getting up around 23/25 when towing then not for me. Could have bought myself a 100 series like yours for 16k last year GXL with 156k on it in dark blue but missed out due to me humming and haring toooo long about fuel consumption and missed a bargain. Plenty of petrol 80/100 on the market and obviously a sh#t load cheaper then the turbo diesel in auto which are bloody hard to find. Have been waiting/looking at rodeo's which yes I know totally different to a cruiser but talking to wife last night now she's asking about getting auto which puts the rodeo/hilux (unless V6) right out of the question. So now wondering which way I am going to go. My problem is I want it as capable as the old lux off road but now looking for a few creature comforts as well like in the cruiser,roooooom. Cant have it all I guess unless you have unlimited $$$$ which unfortunately I dont have like most of us, morgage etc. Steve M

Well bloody said mate. 100% with you on that.

Mine is a ripper. Reliable, comfortable, fast, capable off-road and cheap to run on LPG. When you can't get gas, use petrol.

Sorry guys I didn't check the rushed spelling. Steve that brown one in the pic cost me 18k 7 weeks ago and has more gear than the members rig shows and most already on it. It uses around 18 - 20 on LPG down to 14 on petrol (not premium) but has about 40% more grunt than the 80 dual cab had. This one will spin all fours on bitumin. Going up the coast with the boat on tomorrow so I will let you know fuel figures after the 2nd if you like. The 80 got as low as 18 lt per 100km with the boat on going up the coast on LPG.
Don't forget heaps cheaper to service for oil and filters every 10k. Just new plugs every 20k. 6cyl Diesels average about $90 for oil and $30 for filter every 5k. Costs me $50 for oil and $5 for filter every 10k. And you usually have more power to boot and still great off road. How many hardcore trucks/ buggies are diesel nowdays? not many.
Anyhow I'm going fishin'
Tour Boy

Stephen
not sure what your budget is but this option may be worth considering. I recently picked up a 98 GXL 100 series standard diesel auto and then spent $4k on after market turbo. I could not be happier with my TD Auto. Not as powerful as factory version but the fuel consumption is pretty good. On a long run to townsville I got a return of 11l per 100k and around town just today when I checked was 12.6l per 100k. The vehicle was 1 owner in immaculate condition with 155k on the clock. These vehicles are rare but red books value them around low 20's. Also you get the live axle front end without the dramas of the IFS.
I am now trying to decide on tyres which are due soon. My previous 60 series I ran Bridgstone desert duellers 15inch and they were fantastic tyres and only $170 per tyre. I was disappointed to learn these are not available in 16inch. Any body got some suggestions on tyres?
cheers Geoff

Hi there cruiser, yeah I have heard mainly around the 20 mark. Went through a few different car reviews last night (getting a bit edgy waiting for a good rodeo) and most were saying as mentioned above, but went through the archives on here last night and seems to be more like the figures you have quoted. I know my mates who's is on LPG is using 22 per 100 round town. Steve M

was it a head-on hiclone or tail-wind hiclone?

Hi there cruiser, forgot to mention the wife is now talking auto. Which isnt such a bad thing as I can have a few ale's and she can drive, just havnt told her that yet, maybe I should then she might revert back to getting a manual. Steve M

At least it wasnt a Fitch

Yes they do, if you know how to drive them. My 1995 4.5 80 has 130,000km on the clock and the best fuel consumption I have had is 15L per 100, mind you this was on the highway with a tail wind :-) Worst is 25L per 100 at Christmas on Fraser Island towing a camper trailer and very soft sand conditions.
I average around town 16.5 - 17.5. Best towing a camper trailer was last year from Coffs to Brisbane 17L per 100. The secret? A conservative right foot, run premium fuel and maintain the thing ie. regular fuel and air filter changes.

I agree, I also agonised over fuel consumption. Just purchased a new V8 Auto LC100 ($60K on the road including WA's exorbitant 6% Stamp duty & 12 months license, with Bullbar and towbar), and now have just 1000k on the clock and following fuel consumption very closely.

Results so far, 700K, 114lites = 16.2 Km/100k, pretty well on the mark for the quoted ADR figures, 50% urban running, 40% country running at about 100Km/hr, and however this included towing a 22' 2.4 tonne full height off-road caravan for 80km on freeways around Perth at about 80km/hour. (Running in!)

Towed the van on the weekend about 80Km at 80km/hour on cruise control against a head wind, up a 1000' climb and was shocked at the rate the the fuel gauge dropped, but the speed never dropped below 78km/hr on the steepest hills where the V8 was in 3rd gear spinning at 3500rpm.

My ex Turbo Diesel Pajero (1990) struggled to maintain 80km hour unloaded on the same hill, and with 17' Jayco poptop behind is back to 60Km/hr. Fuel consumption for this rig over 28,000km was rarely better than 15ltrs/100km.

Moral of story:

Big petrol engine = big power = big fuel consumption

Drive with at light foot at speeds/acceleration achievable by a diesel on the same task, fuel consumption will only be about 15-20% more than the diesel, primarily because diesel fuel in Australia contains 15% more ENERGY that ULP.

In Perth ULP is also ofter 15% cheaper than diesel, although I accept that differential does not exist in remote places.

At $10-20k cheaper than the equivalent turbo diesel model at 7% interest only = $700 to $1400 saving p.a , it is not until you do more than 20,000 km year that the saving in fuel just pays for the interest. The capital also still has to be repaid!

Redbook figures for 2nd hand LC only show a slightly higher depreciation rate for the petrol version for the same age and mileage as a diesel (Auto TD excepted), however Toyota have recently discounted the auto petrol version by $5K plus and this is yet to flow thought to the 2nd hand market

We haven't got to servicing yet, but posts previously in this forum have indicated the Turbo diesels are not cheap in this regard!

The ride, smoothness, power, lack of vibration of the V8 has to be seen to be believed, and sitting at 80km/hr on cruise control with a 2.8 tonne van in tow in a very quiet lounge room with relaxing classical music, with commanding views of the surrounding landscape (passing slowly by) certainly gives credence to the saying "its the journey, not the destination is the enjoyable part"

I loved my 308 V8 Holden Panel Van in the 70's, a strong tough vehicle that could tow anything, forever, effortlessly, and now I've found a better one..... and the fuel consumption is even better.

PS I also love my wife's Toyota Prius Hybrid at 3.8ltr/100km. I call it green house trading :-)

A 100 series is closer to the same dimensions as an 80 than you think, actually 101mm longer and 10mm wider according to the specs but about 277kg kerb weight heavier

No its not i own both 100 and 80 series and have measured