Gunbarrel highway in nov-dec

Submitted: Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 20:31
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We have just decided to do another trip around Oz in November and wondering if anyone has done it at this time,would it be dry wet etc and is it possible to do the whole track.
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Reply By: Topcat (WA) - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 21:11

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 21:11
I would suggest you consult the Treck Notes on this site for info. Usually around that period you will find the temperatures will be hot & it is also dry with little rain experienced that far south at that time of year. Cheers.
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Reply By: Member - Leigh (Vic) - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 21:49

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 21:49
Do you intend to travel with other vehicles? It may be very hot and very quiet out there. Good choice of comms essential, ie HF and/or sat phone. You should research further and if not experienced in this sort of country, and well equipped, then suggest you reconsider. Cheers
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Reply By: David from David and Justine Olsen's 4WD Tag-Along - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 22:00

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 22:00
Unless you are an experienced remote area traveller with good comms and an ability to fix basic mechanicals, I woul say give it a miss.
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Reply By: Willem - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 22:23

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 22:23
I agree with all of the above comments.

No doubt it has been driven around that time of the year but it is considered by most seasoned bush travellers, as NOT a SAFE thing to do.

Yes, it would be possible to drive the whole of the Gunbarrel at that time of the year. Temperatures would range between 35minimum and 48maximum degrees C, surface temperatures could be even higher. Camping will be unpleasant. Rainfall is possible.

The Gunbarrel is severly corrugated and the shockabsorbers on your vehicle may not last the distance due to the increased tremperatures. It is unlikely that you will find any other travellers out there, and should you find yourselves in a difficult situation, such as a breakdown or health issues, you may find that rescue is a long way off.

I would suggest that you consider driving the Gunbarrel at a cooler time.

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Reply By: steve&anja - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 22:31

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 22:31
Thanks for the info and concerns. I have 20+ years experience in remote travel mainly top end I never travel unprepared eg tools spares etc Im a self taught mechanic and don' t leave home with out the sat phone. My main concern was wet weather and track condition the heat wont bother us as were leaving home( Kakadu when its build up 45+)
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 23:11

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 23:11
Gunbarrel isn't Kakadu and yes, I have been to both.

No matter how experienced you may think you are, the Gunbarrel is not to be fooled with in the heat of summer

Be warned!
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Follow Up By: Doggy Tease - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 23:30

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 23:30
I will agree with Willem 100% on this.
I grew up in the top end,,,Point Stuart station when it was still a meatworks, and have also worked on a station on the Nullabor.
The build up is nothing like the desert heat at that time of year and the smallest mistake could cost more than you would like.
My advice is not to go, do it during the cooler months.

meow.

rick.
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Follow Up By: steve&anja - Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 at 01:53

Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 at 01:53
Willem did you ever come across some mates of mine while you were here Dave Lindner or John Lord a couple of tuff blokes in their time, John actually started tours here in 1961 he actually built munmalary station in the late 50s and Dave was a ranger in the 60s,70s and 80s he also caught sweetheart.
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Follow Up By: CoopersRed - Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 at 06:05

Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 at 06:05
I agree with Willem and the others. It's too hot. Not only for you, especially for your vehicle. Between the turnoff after Warburton and the border of the Shire of Wiluna (shortly before Mungilli) you will be sitting on 25km/h, so there will not be much cooling air for engine, drive train or suspension. And even if you will get through, it's unlikely that you will enjoy it.

Also, if there is rain, you will need enough water and food for many days, as the track might simply get impassable. We've been there two years ago. In the guest book at the Everard Junction (Gary Highway) we read the entry of a bloke who did it in January (2001 I think). It read: "It's raining the road is a river".

We did it in late April, which at least that year was a good time to do it. Although it was still quite hot, we enjoyed a few freshly graded parts. (WA border to Warburton and Wiluna Shire part). That may save a lot of money, you would otherwise have to pay to your dentist for new fillings. But that's just my two cents worth.

Cheers Wolf
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Follow Up By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 at 08:51

Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 at 08:51
agree with everything said, and would add, if the sat phone is G* then don't rely on it.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 at 20:40

Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 at 20:40
Steve

Yep met Dave Lindner on a couple of occasions. Is he still living up there?
John LOrd rings a bell. Memory is fading. Started the first tours by boat on the South Alligator River in 1979 with Jeff Reid. Used drink White Cans aplenty with the Opitz's behind the Cooinda Pub.

Pretty much criss crossed Kakadu when it was still Woolwonga Reserve in the 70's and then more in the 80's. And also ventured to the plateau behind Jim Jim Falls and up to Gimbat, Sleisbeck and 100km beyond the Katherine River into Arnhemland. It is a magic part of our country
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Follow Up By: steve&anja - Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 at 21:39

Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 at 21:39
Yeah Dave is 63 now and runs the buffalo farm in Kakadu which supplies meat to the black fellas' he's slowing down now but still a tough bugger. Last year after cyclone Monica he was clearing trees and nearly chopped his foot off, He drove himself to the Jabiru clinic to get it fixed after he came to our house for a chat and said I can't get out of the car i got my foot in plaster i cut it a little bit. His little bit was nearly all the way through. We'll probably see him tomorrow as Pattsy goes to church something not up Daves ally.
John Lord is in his 70s he ran tours until 1990 his son runs the company now and he sold me the Jim Jim and Twin Falls day tours last year, This is why I can only travel in November through march.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 at 22:07

Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 at 22:07
Ahhh... I used to run tours into Jim Jim and Twin Falls in 1979 to early 1982. Been there about 120 times...lol Also ran a Day Tour from Darwin to Twin Falls. 4am start and 11pm return. $750 for the day. Did a few of them too. In those days there were just two of us operating in to Jim Jim and Twin. Myself and Darryl Tutty (and later Eric Philp).....Darryl and Eric joined forces with others and established Australian Kakadu Tours...AKT). I got sick of it by the beginning of 82 with tourists and Kakadu Management and buggered off to the west only to return by 85 and stay another 10 years in the NT. It sorta gets in yer blood. Now I can't take the heat any longer. I am of the same vintage as Dave but not nearly as tough.
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Follow Up By: steve&anja - Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 at 22:28

Saturday, Feb 24, 2007 at 22:28
There's only 2 of us doing it from Kakadu now me and cooinda(95 % owned by holiday inn group now) They refuse to hold my fliers but their my second biggest seller because of break downs and their drivers lucky I guess.
Johnny Reid adopted son of Jeff is a good mate of mine a great bloke sober a bugger on the gunbang.
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Reply By: Bilbo - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 23:40

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 23:40
Like the others above, I'd say leave until another day.

The bush east and north of Wiluna in Late November was enough for me. It was like standing inside a blast furnace and one got the impression of "one mistake and you could die" it was that hot.

Bilbo
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Reply By: kimprado - Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 23:48

Friday, Feb 23, 2007 at 23:48
Steve

There is the possibility of rain at any time. If this happens, I'd be more concerned about finding a relatively dry camp site.

Once that country gets saturated from a heavy dump, you'll be covered in mud from here to breakfast.

Temperatures can be very uncomfortable and in some seasons the flies are a bloody menace.

Irrespective of your mechanical skills, I'd go with another vehicle at that time of year.

Regards

KIm

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