Generator noise and times....

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Gday All

I was going to add this to the post below, but it would be better on its own as a bit of a survey I guess.....

Anyway, I have noticed mentioned a lot on this site, and also noticed in most camp area's that people will run the Gennies during the day and eavening, then switch them off to go to sleep. Personally, I would prefer they were switched off from about 3.30 pm or so, or all day for that matter, and run from say 9.00pm until say 4.00am for charging of batteries etc.

I don't mind a bit of white noise at all while I'm asleep, but during the pleasant afternoon and eavning I can do without them...

Any opinions.....

Cheers Andrew
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Reply By: Muddy doe (SA) - Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 18:39

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 18:39
Well I would be the complete opposite Andrew!

Bit of noise during the day while there is activity going on and definately quiet at night during sleeping time. Genny off by 6pm latest.

During day I have the genny running behind the camper facing away from anyone and you hardly know it is there (especially if there is any sort of breeze blowing through trees - masks it REALLY well).

Several hours during day is enough to top up batteries so we can enjoy a tranquil sleep while running fridge from silent battery power.

Just my thoughts.

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Reply By: Bilbo - Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 18:52

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 18:52
Well Andrew!! That is unusual. You'll cop some flak over this one mate;)

But I usually like to start my Honda around 0500 hrs and run until most of the caravan park has woken up. I'll knock it off around say 07.30 hrs and if required, start it up again around 21.30 hrs and run it until it runs out of fuel at around 0300 hrs.

Some other good ways of irritating your neighbours so that you can have the park to yourself is to take the dog for a "wee walk" and let it bleep on your neighbours guy ropes or car tyres. If it poops, it's a good idea to leave it next to someone else's van so that the flies stay off your barbeque.

Awning guy ropes is another good way to meet new friends. So, always make yer guy ropes really long so that they intrude right across the walkway of the van next door. If someone breaks thier neck over 'em, let out a good chuckle and say to your missus, "I wish some people would watch where they're walking, if they've pulled that peg out I'll go banannas at the stupid ****!!"

All TIC,,,,,,,,of course.

And not directed at you Andrew ;). I just felt a bit mischevious,,,

Bilbo - "The naughty hobbitt"
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 19:23

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 19:23
Oi Bilbo. You forgot about leaving the dirty, smelly, noisy diesel running at a fast idle just to really upset your neighbours hahahahahahahaha
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 14:06

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 14:06
Wasn't looking for flak or to stir the pot, just looking for opinions. I have been to a few camps where they are running right up to bedtime, then shut down to go to sleep. While I'd rather complete silence, I'd rather have tea and afew beers in relative quiet, then sleep to the humm of the gennie rather than the other way around

Cheers Andrew
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Follow Up By: Bilbo - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:21

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:21
Andrew,

I wasn't having a go at you. I understand what yer saying. I used to be a shift worker and a bit of gentle 'white noise" used to get me off to sleep.

I just felt like a being a "wicked little hobbit",,,,,,,,,,

Take care, see you in June or near enough.

Gramps,

My 6.5 Chev sure wakes 'em up. It rattles like a tin box full of hammerheads!!

Of course, I'm on the INSIDE of the car, where the soundproofing is now pretty good,,,,,,,,,so it's a case of DILLIGAFF.

;)

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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 17:14

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 17:14
I knew you weren't having a go....cant wait to see and hear that rig....vloomp vloomp vloomp
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Reply By: MickO13 - Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 19:00

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 19:00
I'd have to agree with Muddy there as well Andrew. Sunrise and in particular Sunset are the best times of the day. Nothing worse than having the traquility of the day bleep tered by generators, especially if they're the cheaper GMC or generic types that make a hell of a racket.

I'd draw a couple of members of this forums attention to an incident at Kennedy Ranges Nat. Park last year for an example of how one persons lack of consideration can turn a whole campground to "generator Rage". (35 grand trailer, 80 grand Toyota and a $250 dollar generator). We were all a party to their conversations as they had to shout at each other in their own camp to be heard over the generator. Blighter nicked the communal wood to!

Turn it off at 4.30 I reckon.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 19:19

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 19:19
I _love_ sunrise and sunset in the forests of Australia - it's the most magical of times; I sit quietly in the evening and listen to the animals and birds getting ready for the night as the light gently changes to orange, red and, finally, black when the stars begin to make their magic dots of light across the sky. The dawn is just the reverse as the animals begin to wake up and the sun let's us know it will soon be peeking the rim of it's disk across the eastern sky.... A generator...? I don't think so :)

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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 13:50

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 13:50
Yep, the sunrise and sunset etc are the times I like the quiet as well. I just find them annoying when I am around the camp, talking or whatever, but when I go to bet, a humm in the background is acceptable (especially if I'm sleeping in an air con!)

Note - the only aircon I sleep in while camping is on a mates 28 foot boat. now that is the way to do a fishing trip in the tropics, fish and drink all day, have a feed, talk a bit more, drink a bit more, then have a fresh water shower, crank up the gennie in the cockpit, crank up the air con and sleep in a bunk in comfort.

beats the hell out of a swag in 30 degrees in my centre console!

cheers Andrew
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 07:32

Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 07:32
That's poetic Mike.

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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 18:40

Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 18:40
The bush always makes me go all mushy :)
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Reply By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 19:14

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 19:14
Had a classic on Kangaroo Island over xmas...... I camped in a caravan Park so as I could run my genny (honda eu10 Quiet as) to recharge my batteries for the camera. There was no body around at 4pm and the genny had been cranking for an hour or so...... The German Neigbours came back to their tent and instantly told me to turn it off. They reckoned it was too loud. I promptly told them to go and get BLANKED and go to the national park to camp if they did not want to hear the low hum of the genny. I had already confirmed with the park owner that it was ok to use. I needed the battery to go and get more pics of the sunset that evening so the genny was off within half an hour I had eaten dinner and was gone by 4.30....... I did not here them complain about the aweful noises the Koala was making just above their tent. It was much louder than my genny.
I am the first to move on if I don't like the noise other campers make and I prefer to find places that are isolated and I am the only one there for the simple reason I enjoy my Quiet time
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Follow Up By: Snowbunny - Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 19:35

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 19:35
Are you for real!!! You camped in a caravan park, so you could charge you batteries for your camera by running a GENERATOR??!! Have you not heard of a powered site?!! Or are you a simple tight fisted bugger who still has his recess money from primary school? Wake up Australia, maybe trickle charging your batteries from a dual battery set up too? If I was the German guy your gennie would be in the workshop getting the sugar taken out of the tank...
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 19:57

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 19:57
I did want a powered site but because of the school holidays (Bloody kids) there were none available. As for trickle charging from the 5 battery set in the ute, unfortuanetly Nikon does not make a car charger for the particular camera I have.
As for being tight fisted I claim it back in tax so it dosen't matter about paying the extra dollars. The point being there were no powered sites available so I had to do the next best thing to do my job........ As soon as I can work out how to charge the camera battery from the car I will. Everything else charges from the car including the video camera. Just not the stills
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 20:05

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 20:05
So Snowbunny, before you chew my head off get all the facts straight first. If I had my way. Children should be banned from making noise for 4 hours a day. Sunset and Sunrise. Other question is have you heard the Honda EU10? I guess not as it is incredibly quiet. As I said above I am the first to enjoy the bush and it's peace and quiet.
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Follow Up By: Muddy doe (SA) - Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 20:11

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 20:11
Hiya,

I too have the Honda EU10i and it is great. However if you are only charging a camera battery and already have a 5 battery setup in the rig then surely an approriate size 12v to 240v inverter is the way to go and you can plug your 240v charger into that. May only need a 100w can sized model that retail for about 50 to 60 bucks! Should have written on the charger how many watts it eats.

You will find that using the genny just to charge a camera battery is SO overkill.

Just a thought.
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Follow Up By: Snowbunny - Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 20:13

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 20:13
Yes my friend I have heard the Honda's and they are a very quiet gennie, however you've used the gennie in a van park and also displayed your lack of people skills to impress a German tourist. You sport, are a great ambassador for Australian tourism. You also could have possibly used the van park owners power for a mere hour ?? Maybe you didnt think of that?
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Follow Up By: kiwicol - Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 20:35

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 20:35
no powered sites !!!!!!!!!! take the charger and battery up to park office and ask them to plug into office solves security issues i to would have abused u . Col
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 20:37

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 20:37
I adhered to the rules of the van park and only had the genny going during times they allowed. As a consequence I waited until all campers in my area had departed for the day before I turned it on. I did actually find it strange that the majority of their powered sites did not have campers in them. I have only stayed in a handful of caravan parks in my many years of camping and all have allowed gennys. What I was not impressed by the way the German tourist in true German stlye came straight to me within 30 seconds of getting out of his car as if he owned the place and told me to turn it off. I generally don't have an issue with tourists and I worked for 5 years in the tourist industry in north Qld. Over the last 3 months our family business has employed over 50 backpackers.
What I am trying to say is in my opinion I was doing the right thing by waiting for all campers to be out sightseeing before I turned it on. And I would never be as rude to demand for somebody to turn of their genny when it is on during the allocated times........ Even if I was travelling overseas.
I respect other peoples rights and I expect others to respect my needs
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Follow Up By: sastra - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:14

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:14
Sounds like you have an aversion to kids. Yes they can be annoying at times and I have two - 18 and 14 yrs.
What I think some of you need to remember is that one day someone's kid will probably be wiping mush and dribble off your face and $$hit of your arse!
Enjoy your photos before you get to that point in life.
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Follow Up By: Bilbo - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:35

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:35
Extfilm,

",,,,,,,, unfortunately Nikon does not make a car charger for the particular camera I have.,,,,,,,,,,"

There's 2 ways out of that - buy a 12volt/240volt inverter OR buy 12 volt variable power supply. I have one of the latter. I can plug that into my 12 volt ciggie lighter socket on the truck and dial up any voltage output from 3.5 volts throght to 19.5 volts. I use mine for powering a laptop.

What is the input voltage for the Nikon? There's usually a voltage range on these things.

And as for this comment,",,,,,,,,If I was the German guy your gennie would be in the workshop getting the sugar taken out of the tank... ".

Well, we won the war,,,,,,,,,,

;)

Bilbo
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 17:10

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 17:10
Bilbo......
Yes I would like to have the oppurtunity to not use the genny and have everything else set up to work of the other batteries. Since IMO the Camera is the most important piece of equip I take with me and I do take a few spare batteries with me, hence the need to use the genny only once every 3 days for a few hours. I really am not up to date on other means of charging the camera battery. Seeing the charger is powered from 240 volts I have not yet grasped the mechanics of turning 12v DC into 240v AC. I am researching other methods including 1 or 2 65 watt solar panels on the ute. I just don't want to destroy the batteries.....
As for the voltage range it is 100 to 240 AC
Hope u can enlighten me as to what is available and maybe explain the mechanics of these inverters
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Follow Up By: Bilbo - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 23:18

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 23:18
Extfilm,

I'm no electrical expert. On this forum there are far more qualified people than this little hobbit, BUT,,,,,,,,

As your required input voltage range is so high at 100 to 240 volts (AC) I doubt you'd get a simple 12volt variable power supply as I've mentioned above, to do the job - these are only DC voltage supplies..

Therefore, I'd estimate that you going to have to buy a full blown 12volt/240 volt inverter. What these do is convert 12 DC volt power (that's your car battery power) to 240 volts AC (that's full mains power).

Inverters come in two types - cheap and expensive. The cheap ones are "modified sine wave". These do seem to have difficulty powering some electronic devices such as laptops and particularly microwave ovens (but who'd want to run a microwave in the bush anyway). The expensive ones are "pure sine wave". These are the "best ya ca get" and have no issues with "wave form sensitivity" and will power just about any 240 volt device depending on power needs of the device.

So I reckon you'll need an pure sine wave inverter. You now need to work it what size inverter you need to charge up your camera batteries, or anything else that you want power with it.

Best bet is to go along to solar panel place or 12 Volt Shop and tell 'em what yer trying to acheive.

I'm surprised that a top company like Nikon don't do a 12 volt charger for the camera batteries, Very surprising. Are you sure they don't make 'em?

Bilbo
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 02:58

Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 02:58
Bilbo,
I am very surprised too...... But then again I was one of the first 50 to recieve the camera in australia and maybe they have a car charger now??????????
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Follow Up By: AdlelaideGeorge - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:21

Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 08:21
This is the 'classic': Peter Blakeman's clients:

"include Deutsche Bank" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Germans were correct - their 'right' to a quite camping experience in the Australian bush trumps your 'right' to run a business that, by its very nature it seems, has to upset others.

Happy days

George
PS Nice to know that while others are being annoyed by your noise, you are claiming it (or some part of it) as a 'deduction' too and 'it doesn't matter about the extra dollars'!!!!!!! Give me a break........................!

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Reply By: Willem - Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 21:20

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 21:20
I don't care about generators as I normally do not frequent places where there are other campers.
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Follow Up By: Bilbo - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:37

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:37
Same as that meself Willem. Why go bush just meet other people?

I like the anti-social aspects of 4WDing as much as the next guy,,,,,,,,,,,,,

;)

Bilbo - "The Lone Hobbit"
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Reply By: Robin - Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 21:40

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 21:40
Hi Andrew

I'd certainly prefer a camping world without generators.

Unfortunately noise is relative , and in the quiet of late night even those honda's that can't be heard much during the day sound terribly loud late at night.

While I'd presonnaly like to see a much more minamilist approach they are a fact of life and regulation to limit there hours of use to when there is more ambient noise (daytime) is probably the path we will go down.

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Reply By: Motherhen - Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 22:07

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 at 22:07
While we usually camp alone, and rarely use the Genny, we had been in free camp sites where people use them. This was common in Tasmania, and although i did not enjoy the noisy one our next door neighbour ran for a couple of hours each morning and night for his fridge, i said i had no objection to it after 7 am and up till 9 pm (he started it a bit later than 7 am and turned it off earlier than 9 pm). We got on really well with these neighbours. A Tasmanian (who seemed to go to work during the day) had a big caravan parked for much much longer that the 2 day signed park limit, ran a noisy Genny from well before 7 and again later evening. Luckily he was up the other end to us, but everyone was complaining, and the Tasmanians there referred to "one ignorant Tasmanian" with embarrassment.

We camped near (but not right next to) someone with a Honda 20i at the Saw Pit campsite in Victoria, and had to go outside to hear it running; very quiet.

Basically i would object to a noisy one before 7 am or after 9 pm.
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Reply By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 07:43

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 07:43
MMMM, Looks like I may be on my own a little here......basically what I was getting at agrees with most of what people here have said, although the times I object to are from about 3.30pm til about 9.00pm, and 4.00am onwards. If I was isolated from all others, and using a gennie (I rarely do at the moment), I would be starting it just before I went to bed, and turning it off in the morning.

I was recently (very) pleased with a couple of young blokes from town (around 18 to 20 yo) who were camped near up at Cape Dommett. They had an older type noisy gennie, and no dual battery. They ran the fridge from the car battery, and fired the gennie up for a couple of hours each day. They approached my family strait away, introduced themselves (I hadn't met them, but knew who they were), And told us of their set up, and to feel free to go and turn it off if it annoyed us while they were fishing, and also asked us what time is the best for us while they ran it.

It was very pleasing to see people of this agegroup, who cop a bit at times, being thoughtful and courteous. (I did pass on this to the parents of the young bloke with the gennie and car)

Cheers Andrew
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Reply By: meandet - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:41

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:41
Hi Andrew B

I hate generators with a passion at any time of day or night. We are completely solar powered through a second battery and don't need one. There are lots of other people out there that feel as we do. On our way back from Cape Leveque last year we stopped at Mary Pool near Halls Creek. We had expected it to be generator city and it was. Everyone turned them off just after dark except for one bloke. His next door camper went over to ask him to turn it off and an all in donnybrook took place with all sorts of language flying around (women and all). The matter seemed to be solved when the complainer threatened the generator man with a 3oh (read .303 rifle)

We have seen other fights ie between 2 women at the Gibb River camp and yet another at Roper Bar to mention just a few.

I agree with other comments, these things should be off by 4pm so that evening wildlife, winds, insects and quiet conversations around the campfire can be heard.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 13:53

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 13:53
Gdday Peter

I'm with you on the not after 4pm, I'd prefer not after about 3. I would rather be asleep if they have to run than awake.

Cheers Andrew
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Reply By: Redback - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:11

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:11
I always amazes me why anyone needs all that power and all these 240v apliances when they go camping, aspecially when there are gas or 12v or even fire made equivelents around, if you them stay at home and camp in the backyard if they are THAT important and you can't live without them for a week or 2.

If you want fresh bread use a campoven or the gas Coleman oven, get a dual battery system and a solar panel an inverter and a trickle charger.

We can go 10 days on 1 75AH battery in the camper and 1 60AH auxillary battery in the car.

If i need to charge anything i use the dual battery in the car, i've even charged the camper battery ovenight using my 300w inverter and a trickle charger, on sunny days i use my 10w solar panel to keep the camper battery topped up and have charged camera batteries off it too.

We always go exploring so anything else that needs charging gets done in the car while exploring, pretty simple setup we have and it works well.

Your camping for gods sake, do without some of the things you use every day at home, and give us a break from city noise, isn't that why you go camping to get away from all the noise and stress of home.

If we can do it with 1 battery in our camper surely other could too.

Climbing off box

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 14:03

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 14:03
Gday Baz

I generally don't use a gennie, but the times I have I just prefer them to be going while I sleep. Some places I go I leave the car stationary for 4 - 5 days if possible. After 2 its time for a charge. I can't justify the cost of a decent solar set up (although if I find a reasonable one going cheap I may lash out). I have a gennie available anyway, and it is sometimes the simple way to go.

I like having the gennie in case of a battery failure/mismanagement, for a backup, but try to keep its use to a minimum if I take it. High idle in the car for half an hour can be a top up, but its a bit noisier than the gennie, and possibly not that good for the car. (better to go for a bit of exploreing, but sometimes you just want to sit around and do stuff all)

The best time to run the gennie is when you are away from camp.....but then you just annoy others. Most places I camp this isn't much concern, and If no-ones around at all I'll leave a note on the camp asaking people to shut it off if they turn up and it is annoying them.

As I said, I don't use them much, more of a post for people to say what they prefer for all to survey

Cheers Andrew
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Follow Up By: kiwicol - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 14:32

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 14:32
well said Redback totally agree with you. Col
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Follow Up By: Bilbo - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:44

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:44
Redback,

",,,,,,,,,Your camping for gods sake, do without some of the things you use every day at home, and give us a break from city noise, isn't that why you go camping to get away from all the noise and stress of home,,,,,,,

Now, I might be wrong here and if I am, I'll apologise now up front, but wasn't it you that was asking about DVD players a few days ago??

Bilbo
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 14:10

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 14:10
Opinions on generators are a bit like @rseholes. Everybody has one.

We have one, but use it sparingly (the generator that is). Never started the gennie before 9.00 AM and never runs after 4.00 PM if there is anyone else within 100 metres or so.

We are all different and do our camping differently. We camp away from civilisation for long periods, so carry 2 fridges. We also have an elcectric motor on the boat.

So while some of the theories on getting by without a generator might fit for some, they don't fit for all.

Generators are fine if they are the quieter types and used thoughtfully. It is the inconsiderate owners of them that is the problem.

But I'd rather a generator than some of the inconsiderate people without one. Start up the diesel and run it for 20 or 30 mins before going to bed, then again at 5.00AM when they get up!!! Then say generators are annoying and a wast of money!!! Fortunately it doesn't happen often, but it does happen.
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Reply By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 14:27

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 14:27
I've used one for many camps but I can only remember one camp where there was anyone close enought to be concerned. We asked if it would OK etc and in the end they were plugged in as well. We all sat around the camp under a 240 light and ended up making new friends - there you go, generators are a source of friendship. Never had a complaint and that includes NP rangers.

Kind regards
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Reply By: whyallacookie - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 14:34

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 14:34
It's a hard one. We have kids and so when we camp try to pick spots around other families so at least we minimise the impact on others. Can't say we have had any bad experiences with generators but we are also tolerant of this (and others running their vehicles to charge batteries, it may be all they can afford. At least they are getting out there)

Again we have been lucky and everyone has been considerate and turned them off early, around tea time there tends to be enough noise to drown them out anyway (Kids, people cooking, setting up for the night etc)

I'd prefer not early and not late at night, maybe off before 7pm on around 9am

Perhaps we could start a thread on ways to save using thegennie/car to charge batteries that won't break the bank. (small inverters for charging camera batteries etc)
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Reply By: Steve63 - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 14:45

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 14:45
Andrew,
Noise is different to differnt people. If you have good hearing and are a light sleeper (me) you would be driven mental by those "quiet Genies". I can tell you they are clearly audible in the quiet of the night up to 50m away. It would be better to say they are not as intrusiver as the older genies. If you have lost the high end of you hearing I suppose they are very quiet. The only white noise I want at night is the breeze through the trees/bushes. If they need to be run then the middle of the day when I am likely to be somewhere else sounds good. Could explain why we usually camp well out of the way. :-) I suppose I just appreciate the minimalist approach.

Steve
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 17:19

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 17:19
Gday Steve

You may be onto something there - I've spent a lot of time in noisy environments...my hearing tests fine, but have a gennie in the background and conversations can be difficult to hear, on the other hand, that same genny in the background is fine for me to sleep to.....a bit industrially deaf, maybe the industrially deaf need our own special areas of the world lol.

Cheers Andrew
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Follow Up By: Bilbo - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 22:54

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 22:54
Andrew,

"I'm alright Jack" - I wear 2 hearing aids, like you I suffer badly from Industrial Deafness - but its' great when I can turn 'em off and have some REAL PEACE!

I've done it a few times when I'm with someone that's boring the bum off me but I'm forced to stay!! e.g some of the wife's friends ;), or noisy pubs etc.

Bilbo
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 02:45

Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 02:45
Bilbo,
I know industrial deafness has set in with me and that is why when 100 kms East from Belt Bay (Lake eyre) my mate and I could hear? A car, A plane, A boat.... I do not know what we heard but I put it down to the sound the body makes when there is silence......... "Outdoor Australia" magazine has it quoted in a past issue.
Thank you for making me aware of this problem........ I am now quiting the construction industry......
I hope to have a few months with my cousin who found the evening star in WA and he knows where there is a little bit more....... I have kept my eyes open and know there is a hell of a lot more............... in places he has not explored yet........
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Follow Up By: Bilbo - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 11:15

Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 11:15
Extfilm,

",,,,,,,,,I have kept my eyes open and know there is a hell of a lot more............... in places he has not explored yet........ "

Hmm,,,,,,I've heard that many times before and witnessed a lot of broken hearts and minds because of it - but as "hope springs eternal" we could always swap notes on the subject ;)

Good luck with it,

Bilbo
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Reply By: Shaker - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 14:56

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 14:56
I wonder how may of the 'Generaphobics' start their engines to heat water for a shower?
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Follow Up By: gottabjoaken - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:55

Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:55
Too right, Shaker.

But when they do that, we all bring our chairs around and watch.

that soon persuades them to do it at a time when no-one is near!!

Ken
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Follow Up By: whyallacookie - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 16:24

Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 16:24
Depending on who is showering it could be you that is persuaded not to bring your chairs around!

Morning glory or worse! LOL
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Follow Up By: whyallacookie - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 16:25

Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 16:25
By the way we don't have a car mounted shower but you never know! Could be fun
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