Natmap Info
Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 18:35
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Member - jeff M (SA)
I purchased the Natmap Raster 2005 Premium and was wondering if all the small roads are able to be identified.
At the moment I have the major Highways sused out but don't as yet know how to bring up all the small roads and their names.
Or can't this software help with the small roads????? or maybe I haven't played around with it enough yet..
Jeff M. (SA)
Reply By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 18:38
Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 18:38
should do the lot from main highways to tracks most wouldnt dare take their 4bys down. i got
mine and it does. Wont neccessarily have road/track name on tho.
as far as i know all you do is zoom in on an area for a closer look
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Follow Up By: Member - jeff M (SA) - Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 20:37
Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 20:37
Hi Davoe,
I bought it thinking it would have all the minor road named .
If it dosn't have them then it's about as good as a ash tray on motor bike to me.
Cheers Jeff M. (SA)
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 22:09
Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 22:09
Jeff,
We've used the 250k raster mosaic over a lot of Australia and its a brilliant map, particularly when offroading. But very few tracks are named on the 250k maps. Its a topographical map. Many of the smaller tracks are not there either - often need 50k maps for the finer detail.
If you want streets etc in the major cities, then the UBD maps on CD are excellent.
Cheers
phil
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Follow Up By: Member - jeff M (SA) - Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 22:31
Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 22:31
Hi Phil G
Thanks Phil I think that may have been a better way to go. (UBD).
I am in the wine and food Industry and travel to wineries and food factories to service and deliver machinery, not always in the cities most of the time in the country area.
So I was looking for maps I could use for my service people and to organise permit's for our wide loads ect.
I really need the names of all minor roads as
well as the major roads and highways.
I might have to do some more looking around to find more suitable software.
Thanks for your reply
Jeff M. (SA)
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 17:46
Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 17:46
Jeff M
The UBD city streets V3 will work in Ozi and gives maps of all capital cities. I got
mine from the RAA.
Fullers SA towns on cd will give you most of the SA country towns but the quality is poor.
I also have a Tom Tom navigator which is excellent in towns and will do turn by turn navigation.
Cheers
Pete
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 17:57
Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 17:57
i actually had a look at the barossa area last night coz i know there are heaps of roads there. They are probably all there but non except the majour roads are named.
Dunno about elsewhere but in WA the 250k maps are the most recent of the topo maps done around 2000 and some updated where as the smaller scale maps were done much longer ago like the 100k were done in the early 80s. i have found no more detail in the 100k maps just on a smaller scale
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 18:39
Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 18:39
just a thought you are looking at the 250k maps arnt you? it does have some larger scale maps on it
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Follow Up By: Keith_A (Qld) - Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 20:54
Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 20:54
Good point Davoe - when I bought the Natmap, it came as a 3 map set.
1. the 250K - with all the tracks and small roads (other than city roads).
2. the 1m scale - which is designed as an overview of Aust - major highways only.
3. the Satellite map - to give general vegetation layout as at the date the
pic was taken.
So -as Davoe said -
check that you have loaded the 250K map rather than the 1m.......Keith.
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 17:55
Thursday, Mar 08, 2007 at 17:55
I would be careful with the 1mb scale map, I think the info is from the early 80s.
Have a look and see if it shows
Wivenhoe dam, it doesn't on
mine, or the new highway north from Brisy to the Coloundra turnoff. Have a good time travelling up that road going 'bush' on a 4 lane highway.
1:250k series date from mid 90s to early 2000s.
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Reply By: Member - Fizz (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 20:43
Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 20:43
When you zoom in or out on a Raster map you don't get extra information or lose information. A Raster image is a bit-map image. As you zoom out you just go from it being so small you can't read it (because the pixels are tiny) to it being so pixellated (jagged) it is meaningless (because the pixels become very big).
It's only with vector-based maps (which are based on mathematical algoritms rather than pixels) that the actual amount of info can vary depending on how far you have zoomed in or out.
I'm not sure what software you need to use for vector-based maps, except that I know my eXplorist XL GPS uses them - which is why small roads start to show up as you increase the zoom. If anyone knows, I'd be interested to find out.
Fizz
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Follow Up By: Im.away - Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 21:14
Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 21:14
You're right on the money Fizz. Natmaps are a good navigation source for occasions where the topography of the area is important. Natmaps at 1:250,000 feature all highways, most major roads and some tracks.
What it is really good at is displaying rivers, creeks, sandhills, rocks and mountains, lakes on so on. For example, when crossing the Simmo, the accuracy of the sand ridges on Natmap is excellent. They aren't even shown on most vector map software.
Discover Aus ( for Magellan GPSR's) is a good vector program that includes street names. Garmin have a similar product.
Ideally you could run both types simultaneously (I do, using one GPS and a program called GPS Wedge) and get the best of both worlds.
Russ.
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Follow Up By: Member - Fizz (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 21:55
Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 21:55
Thanks Russ.
I've got DiscoverAus in the GPS, but it's not the Topo version. Has anyone used both the Topo and the non-Topo and can say whether they reckon it's worth spending $399 to upgrade to the Topo? Does the Topo show sand ridges?
Do you mean that using GPS WEDGE you can have DiscoverAus running on your GPS with (say) Natmap 250K running simultaneously on the laptop?
Graham (Fizz)
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Follow Up By: Im.away - Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 22:46
Wednesday, Mar 07, 2007 at 22:46
GPS Wedge would allow you to run two different mapping programs simulataneously on a laptop. I do this and run the two Windows side-by-side so I can look at each without switching between them. You probably dont even need it to run one on the GPSR and one on the laptop.
This assumes that your GPSR is able to send NMEA sentences via its comms port as
well as runing Discover Aus.
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