Over Inflated Tyres on New Prado
Submitted: Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 14:21
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PeteS
A word of warning to those who do not often
check their tyres (like me), esp on new vehicles.
I took delivery 2 weeks ago of a brand new Prado GXL Turbo.
Last weekend I purchased a tubeless tyre repair kit which comes with a tyre guage. I decided to
check my tyre pressure on the
Dunlop Grandtreks and found they had 60 PSI in them. Tyre sidewall reads MAX. 51 PSI?
The manual reads normal inflation is 28PSI and the sticker on the door 190Kpa (approx 27.5 PSI). Mmmmmmmmmmmm
I was now very confused. I even took the tyre pressure guage back and exchanged it for a new one (still the same readings). I let the tyres down to 50PSI until I could contact the Toyota dealer. They told me the vehicles are shipped to them with 60PSI and he apologised saying the pre-delivery obviously did not alter the tyre pressures. They service section recommended 32PSI, saying it gave less tyre roll and helped reduce the tyre edge wear.
My real worry was what could have happened as I have already done approx 1,100km travelling on highways around at 100-110kph on some fairly hot days.
Hope this manages to make those who rarley
check their tyre pressure (like me who rely on looks of the right size bulge at the bottom) to actually
check their pressure.
Cheers
Reply By: HGMonaro - Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 14:30
Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 14:30
mine came that way too and I've heard of others, guess they need to update their dealer delivery routine! I'm pretty sure I remarked on it on the customer service survey too, guess they haven't read it!
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 14:36
Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 14:36
now you know where your dealer delivery fee goes
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Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 15:02
Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 15:02
And they charge you $1000 plus for a predelivery
check and cant even get the tyre pressures right. I use to call it the $1000 plus car wash. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: Scoof - Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 15:30
Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 15:30
If they can't even get the simplest job done I wonder what else got missed.
Remove a couple stickers and give it a quick wash, pre-delivery done.
O what a feeling.
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Reply By: Max - Sydney - Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 20:59
Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 20:59
Its not just new cars - when ever your car has had new tyres, wheel balance or a service you have to
check and far too often deflate tyres. Best just around the corner before they get hot - or else next morning.
They seem to go to courses that tell them their liability is less if they over inflate tyres.
Grrrrrrrrr
Max
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Reply By: Muddy doe (SA) - Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 22:12
Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 22:12
Of course ALL people driving 4WD's should be
well educated on correct tyre pressures for various terrain types (bitumen, gravel, sand, rockhopping ect) and should
check pressures regularly!
Still no excuse for the Dealer to completely miss this in the pre-delivery $1000 ripoff.
Muddy
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Reply By: Im.away - Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 22:21
Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 22:21
Don't stress too much about the fact that you did 1100 k's on high pressure tyres. That rating is always understated by manufacturers to cover their bum. In fact, I'd rather have found that they were over-inflated in hot weather than the other way around.
One question though, 60 psi would have given you the ride from hell. Didn't you notice?
I agree with everyone about the dealer though. The only dealer I have ever gained the impression that they did anything for the money was the dealer who sold me my Landrover Disco3. Everything was in order when we picked it up, and the dealer even pointed out a couple of issues that they needed to follow up. (Which they did very promptly).
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Follow Up By: PeteS - Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 at 07:45
Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 at 07:45
Thanks I.away
I have not had a 4WD for some 10 years now and the "ride from hell" with the unknown 60PSI in my tyres was better than the Nissan SWB Diesel Patrol I used to have with BFG Tyres.
Cheers
Pete
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Reply By: nowimnumberone - Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 22:31
Friday, Mar 09, 2007 at 22:31
the pressures you had will do no damage for the ks you have done
cheers
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Reply By: WA 1968 - Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 at 19:55
Saturday, Mar 10, 2007 at 19:55
not just pre delivery. I have in the past checked my tyre pressure after a service, just to see what the dealers service technicians put it on. Not one of the four tyres was anywhere near what the tye placard stated or within cooee of one of the three other tyres.
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Follow Up By: PeteS - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 08:19
Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 08:19
Hi WA1968
I'm now a frequent tyre checker after my last experience (as I know I should have been before). I never had a guage before and from past experiences I found the service stations guages differed.
I'm now convinced that we will never know the best tyre pressure. I think tyre manufacturers do not delve into to much specifics. They just give average and max. pressure s for fear of warranty claims.
I'm told Toyota have been fitting
Dunlop Grandtreks to Prado's for ages now. If so why can't they (
Dunlop & Toyota) get it right? My owners manual reads one thing, dealer says another thing and I can't find much info from the manufacturer.
With a 4WD we are altering pressure to different road conditions and there is no
It seems tyre pressure is like
recipes, you twink them to suit your ride and wear.
Cheers
Pete
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Follow Up By: WA 1968 - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 12:25
Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 12:25
Pete,
Not sure how much offroad work you do, but i carry 2 x Tyre Pressure guages. One for 20 psi + Above and one under. Just helps when you need to get an accurate reading when doing soft sand work without the unfortunate occuring of rolling a tyre of the rim when you "thought" you have 12 psi still in the tyre.
I also found the
Dunlop Grandtreks I only got 35k out of them and I am not a heavy driver. Not sure of other ppls experience with these.
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 12:33
Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 12:33
A friend who has a 2004 Prado has always kept his tyres at >40 has got 80ks whereas others I spoke to with lower pressure got about 30ks.
His driving is all on the bitumen
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Pedro
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Follow Up By: PeteS - Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 13:26
Sunday, Mar 11, 2007 at 13:26
Thanks Pedro & WA 1968
I'm even more convinced now that tyres are to be monitored constantly and almost experimented with to obtain the best life & ride.
Think however they may be like shoes, almost worn out when you are just getting used to them. Then you buy another type and start all over again :-)
PeteS
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