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Submitted: Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 17:28
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Hi guys, just a quick note to let you know about my current 4x4, a pajero. I got it as a work hack, cost me next to nothing. It had good air con and it was diesel so i got it. Anyway I am not a mitsubishi man or anything but I have discovered a few things about this car which are really interesting.

its a 2.5L turbo with intercooler. It has all the mod cons inside but as I have owned it I have found it has a stock auto tranny cooler, it has stock dual batt set up. I know there is often some discussion about both of these here so obviously other brands dont have this stuff. it also has a power steering cooler.

Anyway today I turned on the key to listen to the radio and it was hot, and I heard the fan going, so I popped the bonnet and the noise was not from the front, so I put my hand under the intercooler and got a buzz as the fan hit my hand. I have noticed some new cars dont have intercooler fans (discussed on other threads re the 3.0L patrol) and I didnt think this did either. So anyway, mitsubishi must have been playing catch up to the bigger players or something by putting more standard stuff in their cars.

For those on a tight budget I think these cars are a good option cause you get a lot for the money, in fact for the same money in a toyota you would have a 60 series with less of everything.
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Reply By: PajeroTD - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 17:42

Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 17:42
Hi F4Phantom, my first 4x4 was a Pajero diesel, hence my nickname on here. I bought it for the same reason, just cos they are so cheap. You are right, you get so much in them, you can pick up an early 90s model with the captains chairs in velour, 7 seats, and they make a really comfortable cruiser. I know the size of the engine is smaller than the Patrol/Cruiser, but the ecomomy is so much better too, and to be honest, with low range, it will climb up anything anyway off road, and they tend to do better on highway driving than an old Naturally aspirated 60 series diesel, that needs to be downshifted to 3rd for going up hills on the freeway, and slows right down. I would say the same thing about LR Discovery's. A few mods and you can make anything good off road anyway.
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Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 18:43

Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 18:43
Hi there F4, your spot on mate the mitsi's do have a lot to offer and after looking at a few over the last couple of weeks it was a toss up between the mitsi and the prado. I went the vx grande prado due to resale down the track but it probably works out the same in the end as the mitsi was cheaper to buy in the first place. I loved the seats in the mitsi, it was an 99 model I think gls for memory had the square cut off front guards but had the lot moonroof, loved the individual arm rests on the front seats abs all the gear with 130k on it for 18kono. Only that I get toyo parts cheap and best mate is a toyota head technician that I played it safe and stuck with toyota. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 18:51

Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 18:51
Is it an imported 'grey' market vehicle ? The two battery versions were (I thought) only for the extra cold winter market. I have one ex Japan and it has twin batteries etc. from factory.
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Follow Up By: F4Phantom - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 18:57

Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 18:57
yes its is an import, they did not have the 2.5L intercooler here only the non intercooled. Also I am not sure they had the 4 speed auto in the diesel here. The batt system is not really important as they are in parrallel and both always on, also they are both car batts so its not like its a factory deep cycle switchable setup, but I do feel better leaving doors open and stuff knowing its not going to flatten the battery easy.

oh yeah, as per the winter thing, it also has heated seats, I will probably never use them!
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 19:54

Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 19:54
I have a 2.8 TDI and am totaly wrapped with it. It will climb amost vertical as long as I have traction and the LSD in the rear is the best I have experienced. A diff lock in the front would be nice but I certainly don't need a lockr in the rear.
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Follow Up By: Allan JJ - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 20:30

Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 20:30
THey may not be twin battery setup as we know it either, they are simply hooked up together to provide more starting power.

So if you run your accessories of one you may get a shock one day to find you have flattened your starting battery.

I know the toyotas & fords are like this

allan
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Friday, Mar 16, 2007 at 07:13

Friday, Mar 16, 2007 at 07:13
You are right Allan JJ, it is for cold cranking.
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Reply By: Grandpa joe - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 20:05

Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 20:05
I had a 96 model paj GLX (no side steps or flares) with the 2.8ltr deisel, it had a fan under the intercooler as did all the other deisel paj's at the time.
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Reply By: Middle Jeff - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 20:14

Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 20:14
Hi

Love Pajero's I had a 85 super wagon and you just could not kill it and it had everything, compared to the 60 and 3 speed Nissan's it was light years ahead and everybody has been trying to catch up to them ever since. The most underrated and unfairly bagged 4wd on the market, the new one has things standard you can not even get on a Prado.

Have fun

Craig
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 20:23

Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 20:23
When did Pajeros come on to the Australian market? Was it around 1982/3?

The 3 speed Nissan passed away in 1979 so you cant really compare the two.

While Pajeros are very good and capable 4bies they are more the softer option of 4wd-ing

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Middle Jeff - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 20:53

Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 20:53
Hi Willem

You are right Nissan had found another gear by 83 but still one behind the Paj, but they are not a softer option only smaller and I know a lot of people will not believe this but I have seen what the new ones can do, I think they are as robust as a 100 or a Nissan just smaller. Put a 2" lift and a set of A/Ts on one and away you go. I also know this is what I think off them and probably every one else will think I am a loon but I am used to that.

Have fun

Craig
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Follow Up By: Grandpa joe - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 21:30

Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 21:30
The 96 Pajero td 2.8 I had was great but they are certainly not as robust, It went back under warranty THREE Times to mitsubishi as the chassis gave that much twist that it fractured both windscreen pillars almost completely through! And somewhere along the way the front IFS hub spline stripped on the left hand side,There attitude was that I shouldn't be using it as a 4wd.( resulting in a speedy sale!)
My Patrol has done much harder track work than my old pajero and is still in A1 condition.

The deisel is a great Paj when driven with a lot of care offroad.
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Follow Up By: F4Phantom - Friday, Mar 16, 2007 at 00:01

Friday, Mar 16, 2007 at 00:01
I think the other brands play catch up in the value stakes and equipment but I think some other brands may be stonger. The new pajero along with the D3 are in a class of their own in stock form (because of traction control). I disagree with ability tho, I have rear coils and can easily outdo a dual cab. I have road tyres and have been much more capable than a dual cab with muddies.
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Reply By: Footloose - Friday, Mar 16, 2007 at 00:23

Friday, Mar 16, 2007 at 00:23
I owned a 90 LWB 2litre diesel with blower, Padj. One of the best cars around. Unfortunately I thought it was a serious 4wd. It wasn't.
The engine wasn't powerful enough.
It was too low and I accidently modified the chassis several times.
The gearbox had expensive issues.
Oh did I mention it was too low ?
Yes it had a stack of lovely car like inclusions, including the seats on springs , beautiful thick carpet, electric this and that....
Not worth a pinch of salt on Cape York. My old HJ60 was superior in every way that counted.

Thats my experience. But times have changed, perhaps they make a real 4wd now?
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Follow Up By: F4Phantom - Friday, Mar 16, 2007 at 10:23

Friday, Mar 16, 2007 at 10:23
I agree about the ride height, have not heard of them with 2.0L diesels tho only 2.6L petrol ans 2.5L diesel (and the v6). Mine is low your right but it also has 6 steel slide/bash plates underneath, I will be raising it too. Another difference with yours is mine has loads of power and I can easily tackle a hill with a large trailer in top gear on a 40 dgeree day with aircon full on. With no trailer its even better.
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