Cruiser depreciates more than Patrol - Quote

no flak jacket needed, people know a good 4wd when they see one!! LOL and since the LC'S are about 100% over priced to start with the nissan is really in front!!

Hi George - figures are after 3 years for big cars are

Patrol worth 55%

Landcruiser 53%

Troopie 54%

Worst 4.4lt discovery 3 SE = 37%

I.E. from $81k new you get $29k after 3 years

Robin Miller

I've got the TDV6 Disco 3 and I couldn't give a toss about its resale value. I like it so much I'm going to keep it forever. I find myself looking for any excuse at all to get in it and drive it. It's the only one of 7 fourbies I've owned (and countless others I've driven for work) that makes me feel feel that way!

29k after three years, that's a fantastic bargin for such a great vehicle..hmm I could go one of them.

rather....or hafta?

"It sounds like something an accomplished, elderly ( hahahahahaha ) stirrer on this site would post :)))))))"

I would have thought you to embellish the Cruiser a bit more than the Patrol, but even you admit to a quote like that.....Good onya for facing facts LOL!!! ;-)))

Spot on, you wouldn't waste your dollars buying rubbish like a 4wd magazine.

I'm guessing that Nissan had a large add in that particular magazine to get positive comment like that.

Now, now Trev. We both know that I favour neither and that the mighty Luxes hold their values better than either of those two overpriced rust buckets hahahahaha

That elderly stirrer should be along soon.

lol you guys are full of falafel, everyone buys 4WD mags, maybe its time for a revisit of the 4WD mag advertising review, mite do that satdy

Look out John. Bonz is threatening to drive us all nuts with another indepth advertising analysis with graphs etc etc etc. Have you been confined to quarters this weekend Bonz ? Are you recovering from another mishap ? LOL

comparing 4.2 turbodiesels, GXL vs ST.
Cruiser was $6000 dearer when new, now worth $3000 less than the Patrol

Redbook comparison

I managed to get my auto patrol for close to $51K at that time the cruiser was about $26K more for the same specs as far as all the extras etc. I would have liked the cruiser however common sense prevailed and I managed to get a nice van for the difference. I would still like a cruiser one day.
My old HJ75 went out the door with some 300,000Km on the clock for the same price as I paid some five years previously. Engine has since had some dollars spent since I sold it but it's still going.

Pooley

If that was actully true that would leave a heck of alot of 04 patrols sitting on the lot while the buyers walked straight past them to the 04 cruiser

"If that was actully true"

Do you know of a better source than Redbook? It has been the industry bible since Jesus drove a G60.

"that would leave a heck of alot of 04 patrols sitting on the lot while the buyers walked straight past them to the 04 cruiser"

In your opinion.....
Redbook disagrees

Redbook is a waste of paper but handy for dumb arse secondhand carsales men that have no idea what anything is worth.

could only find one 04 TD gxl with a quick look in saturdays paper and it was advertised for just shy of 60k ----- Which was more than brand spanking TD patrols advertised.
One thing I doubt red book has allowed for is the relative scarcity of both the TD cruiser and 4.2 TD patrol on the market in late model form
Either is the raretype of vehicle that sell themselves with people ringing around looking for them so top dollar can be asked. compared with a v8 cruiser or 3.00litre patrol

As far as mine use goes, this may change in the future as some of the big mines (like BHP) have got there oh&s gurus saying they wont buy toyotas (70 series, which is the bigest market for landcruiser) because they have no air bag. Some of there choices are still toyota with hilux being a replacement for the utes.

allan

Robert A

I will tell you a story that I have posted before.

Telstra were using Toyotas and having nothing but problems. Two representatives came from Japan to Katherine and were taken out and shown what Telstra were using the vehicles for. The two Japanese gentlemen advised that the Toyotas were not made to do that sort of work.

Telstra now uses Patrols. They put old man emu suspension on them. No other modification is necessary. They have not had a problem with the patrols and swear by them.

I must add however that they use the 4.2 TD. I have to think what is going to happen when the 4.2td is no longer available and they have to use the 3.0 ltr.

Tjilpi

unmitigated rubish. telstra vehicles get a damn sitem easier life than most tojos i have seen used. Last telstra patrol i came accross was parked on its side in a creek. I think most of their problems come fom the driver

"That is Toughness, reliability and resale."

You may also like to consider proximity of dealer backup, spares availability and the investment in training of in house service departments. These items are hard to argue, unlike the others which are essentially subjective.

I would say that is more about Telstra being tight Ar**s.
Buy cheap cars more profit.
And if you could ever believe a word that comes out of the mouth of Telstra

Davoe has a good point comes down to driver.

Outbacktourer. I just wanted to mention a couple or I would spend all day here stating the good points.

Rob

Robert A

I wasn't going to bother replying to Davoe's comment because it wasn't worth commenting to. The facts I related are true. Toyota drivers/owners may not want to hear it or believe it. To be so non-objective and dismiss it as Davoe left me with the thought that his comment was not worthy of a reply.

The Telstra employee who informed me of this is a person of high integrity who I believe. I suggest that you stop being so prejudgemental and check out the facts for yourselves.

Tjilpi

I worked for Telstra 10 years ago and I remeber they had problems with the Cruisers front 'A' pillars cracking at the roof. The had to install an unattractive brace as Toyota wouldn't cover them under warranty.

Leroy

According to NRMA weekly running costs:

Toyota Prius $225.69
Patrol 3.0Di ST Auto $261.06
Cruiser 4.2TD Auto $336.22
Cruiser V8 Auto $295.46
Patrol 4.8 Auto $303.59

OT

Good point Robin,
In 2002 I couldn't buy a brand new 100 series for 47k, but I could get a patrol with a bullbar and towbar drive away 47k.

If I had the extra $27000+ for the landcruiser I still would have bought the Patrol and got a camper trailer!!!!!!

Hi Alloy

I don't see that as a logical arguement - except insofar as it is created by overpricing.

The same amount of people had the chance to buy either up front , to change the buying pattern something has to change , you could argue several things though -

1/ People with less available cash buy 2nd hand <- reasonable statement

2/ Vehicles a few years old are more likely to be taken into bush <- also reasonable statement

3/Most people buying these new vehicles have no interest in there bush use and want just the latest big capacity Toorak tractor <- seems plenty of evidence for this statement.

I guess we get into conjecture from here , and mine is that I go with no.3
and what follows from this is that as they get older , the biggest purchase group just loses interest and the group more likely to use them later in life as intended probably think that Nissan + accessories + change is better value than a Tojo by itself.

Robin Miller