The tyre salesman told me
Submitted: Friday, Apr 11, 2003 at 21:32
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That I should run Nitrogen in our tyres.
We did my ladies Honda Civic, and it changed greatly the handling and the ride.
Was so impressed, that we did the 4WD, with same results.
Will it be a benefit if we do the new pop top too.
We never have to deflate tyres in our travels.
Thanks
Col Tigwell
Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Apr 11, 2003 at 21:56
Friday, Apr 11, 2003 at 21:56
Mate worked for Meneres BMW for 8 odd yrs, he was telling me of the same thing. BMW use it in their cars and improves the handling.
But if you get a flat out in the boonies, they wont have Nitrogen to fill your tires with, Im wondering what the mixture of Air tires on one side, and nitro on the other will do.
Apparently they use different colored Valve caps on the nitro to designate it?
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Reply By: Andrew - Friday, Apr 11, 2003 at 23:07
Friday, Apr 11, 2003 at 23:07
herkman
I ran Nitro in a set of performance tyres on a Statesman I use to own. The difference was incredible. Long term the tyres wore
well and outlasted and outperformed the previous set in every respect.
I admit the tyres were better than those I replaced but I strongly believe the Nitro played a good part. I am told it helps the tyre run cooler as one of the benefits therefore less wear.
I will be replacing the tyres om my patrol in the next few months and will ask for the Nitro. I am travelling across the hardtop to the otherside of the country in Sept.
IMHO I recon its worth it if you aren't going to let your tyres down for some time. If however, you do a bit of soft sand stuff often, its a waste of money.
As for the pop top, I doubt you would feel any difference but tyre life may be extended.
cheers
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Reply By: StephenF - Saturday, Apr 12, 2003 at 09:56
Saturday, Apr 12, 2003 at 09:56
From "How Stuff Works":
"Many race car teams use nitrogen instead of air in their tires because nitrogen has a much more consistent rate of expansion and contraction compared to the usual air. Often, a half pound of pressure will radically affect traction and handling. With track and tire temperatures varying over the duration of a race, the consistency of nitrogen is needed.
Nitrogen pressure is more consistent than normal air pressure because air typically contains varying amounts of water vapor due to changes in the relative humidity on race day. Water causes the usual air to be inconsistent in its rate of expansion and contraction. So, a humid race in the southeast
United States or a dry race in
the desert western
United States could make for unpredictable tire pressures if "dry" nitrogen were not used."
It appears then that nitrogen inflation is a waste of money for the rest of us.
Stephen.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark - Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 22:57
Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 22:57
You are 100 % right As an x race driver myself the only reason we used nitrogen in tyres was too keep a stable pressure . So maybe if you are driving your 4X4 at Mach 1 you might need it if not save your money .
Cheers mark
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Reply By: Member - Chris - Saturday, Apr 12, 2003 at 22:55
Saturday, Apr 12, 2003 at 22:55
This topic has surfaced again, and again drawn the usual criticism from those who either:
a. can't see the sense in spending money,
b. relate this issue to the 'real' and not-so-real' 4wds, or
c. quote history to prove that nitrogen is useless.
Col, my experience is that it only costs $5 a tyre from the big BJ, they top it up for free anywhere their
shop has N, and yes there is improvements in:
a.Chris
<- 1996 Troopy, the best!
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Reply By: Member - Chris - Saturday, Apr 12, 2003 at 22:55
Saturday, Apr 12, 2003 at 22:55
This topic has surfaced again, and again drawn the usual criticism from those who either:
a. can't see the sense in spending money,
b. relate this issue to the 'real' and not-so-real' 4wds, or
c. quote history to prove that nitrogen is useless.
Col, my experience is that it only costs $5 a tyre from the big BJ, they top it up for free anywhere their
shop has N, and yes there is improvements in:
a.Chris
<- 1996 Troopy, the best!
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Reply By: Member - Chris - Saturday, Apr 12, 2003 at 23:00
Saturday, Apr 12, 2003 at 23:00
Again, this issue has drawn the usual group of those who don't want to spend money, think 'real' 4wds don't need it, or quote history and science to disprove the benefit of N.
Col, in my experience, loading up on N:
a. reduced heat generated on long runs,
b. proved that the pressures do not go down - to the point where I didn't have to
check them as much,
c. reduced wear - less money spent,
d. cost only $5 a wheel from BJs and free top ups all around the country, and
e. when I had to reduce pressure and mix, did not cause problems.
Despite the notes above, it worked for me and I'll use it again and again. Chris
<- 1996 Troopy, the best!
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