ARB air compressor under bonnet on 4.2 GU.
Submitted: Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 11:56
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Has anyone got suggestions regarding the best switch type and placement for under bonnet fitting of ARB compressor. I have the kit which is designed to run air lockers. A rocker switch with LED indicator is in kit but this would only seem suitable for dash placement and I tend to think the switch should go under the bonnet.
Reply By: Member - Darian - Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 16:33
Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 16:33
I have the same system in my Jack -
I put the rocker switch on the center console - don't have lockers - just use for tyres and blowing things out.
Have a 5 l PVC tank in the bullbar to act as added reservoir. Works
well. If you don't want the switch inside, just coil the loom up high in the engine bay. Save the rocker switch for another job (they are $20) - mount any HD toggle switch up high for the circuit - you only have two wires to close in the relay circuit.Love the bush - stuck in the city - help.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cocka - Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 22:10
Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 22:10
Darian great picture of the wagon, who's the mascot on the front??
But I'm really interested in the 5L PVC tank in bull bar - where did that come from and what PSI does it take, is there a safty valve, fittings, etc ???
Would appreciate any info - taCarpe Diem
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Follow Up By: Member - Darian - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 09:46
Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 09:46
That's her indoors who will be included in all sandy expeditions to great fishing
places (
Fowlers Bay, SA).
Re the PVC tank, I got some high pressure 50mm pipe from the plumbing
shop - costs a bit - rated to about 135 psi I think - made some brackets and mounted max length I could fit in under the bull (I have an ARB non-winch type). Got some fittings (a Tee, threaded hose coupling etc) from an Air
Tools type
shop (Beissbarth in SA - they serve the tyre changing industry). ) Put a Tee onto the ARB pump fittings to gain an extra pipe and ran that down to the PVC tank with some rated hose.
Might have been $60 all up. The extrar tank space allows for some decnt "blow" in reserve. I have a snap on tyre inflation fitting and a blow down gun for cleaning dusty things while bush. The original pressure cutout is undisturbed. I'm happy. Your point re switch in engine bay is valid - as you say, we have to go there to use the pump in the first place, but its such a nice switch with a great loom so I stuck it indoors. Bought another one of those switches from ARB for the Lightforce spots.Love the bush - stuck in the city - help.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cocka - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 11:18
Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 11:18
I like your thinking, particularly the fishing mascot idea. I just returned from 1 W on Melville Isl. and didn't take the mascot but caught trophy Barra instead.
More Q re tank - Are ends closed with PVC glued caps ? Have you fitted a safety valve or is the tank rated higher that the pump ?
Could you also include a tyre valve fitting so that you can pressure up from garage air hoses ?? saves a lot of work by the little ARB, but you would definitely need a safety valve & know the PSI capacity.
I use my spare(s) to carry extra air and have a clip on hose to the tyre valves with a small ball valve near one end that turns on after the connection are made. I will make up a short adaptor for a blower.
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Follow Up By: Member - Darian - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 09:23
Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 09:23
Yep - the hight pressure PVC tube has the same rating for the caps - just cleaned them with metho and used the regular blue cement. Don't stress them for 24 hours - all will be fine. I put the brass inlet fitting in the middle of a cap. Its a hose type connector with a threaded base (for tapping into a metal sheet surface or similar) - with a fibre washer or two, it sealed nicely. The tank is definely rated higher than the pump - by about 35 psi or so - they can tell you at the plumbing
shop. I don't think there would be much point in storing air in there - the capacity is too small (5 or so litres all up). Your tyres are a different story all together. Before this project, the "blow" was about 4 seconds worth using my blow-down gun - with the PVC tank, its out to about 15-20 seconds max. A small but useful improvement. Use the biggest diam and length you can fit to gain litres - it will cost but its worth it. Love the bush - stuck in the city - help.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cocka - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 12:00
Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 12:00
Thanks for all of that. From little acorns grow big oak trees.Carpe Diem
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 18:36
Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 18:36
Why not fit it under the drivers
seat. out of dirt, dust, and water, and I havent had any problems with
mine at all. Only need to drill 2 holes in the floor, and seal up when bolting in...
The switch is better off also on the dash, there are blank plates that push out and you put the switch in there. Why would you want the switch under the bonnet? just askin!
Enjoy.
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Follow Up By: albert - Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 22:29
Sunday, Apr 13, 2003 at 22:29
I'm not too sure that the supplied rocker switch will actually fit in the available blanks inside. The thinking with regard to switch under bonnet is that you go there to connect the air hose so you might as
well turn on and off as
well! Saves getting back into the vehicle each time. Another query, if the pressure switch fails will the small tank self destruct?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 10:54
Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 10:54
They are a big looking switch!
But yes they do fit. One thing, ARB wouldnt sell them if they didnt fit. You may have to file the hold a "LITTLE" larger, as some are tight fits, but
mine was fitted month or so ago. its a big switch with ARB on it, and few lumpy bits sort of like for grip.??
Take care.
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Reply By: Member - Peter [SA] - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 08:00
Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 08:00
have
mine fitted to dash, no lockers just use for tyres, no hassle really as it is mounted to right side of steering wheel, dont have to get in car to operate
Cheers Peter
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Reply By: Matt M - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 17:16
Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 17:16
Why would you have to get under the bonnet to turn it on?? With the supplied wiring loom you just turn it on and the pressure switch cuts in and out as required!
With it on, coneect the hose and the drop in pressure turns the pump on itself. Mount the switch inside and keep it clean etc and just plug the hose and go! If you are really keep run a line from the tank to your bullbar and fit a Ryco QD there and you never even have to lift the bonnet!
Matt.
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Follow Up By: albert - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 22:10
Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 22:10
Thanks for the
feedback guys, I will now sort this system out!
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Reply By: Member - John- Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 22:59
Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 22:59
Albert, I have an ARB compressor fitted to my GU 4.2TD coil cab using the std kit from ARB. The unit is mounted on to the firewall high up on the left had side. Sits horizontally.
You will need an extra piece of flat plate to spread the mounting wider on the firewall otherwise it will vibrate up and down and eventually crack the firewall.
Secondly, ARB instructions say wire the switch to +IGN so it only works with ignition on (for ARB air lockers). If you don't install air lockers, connect it to the ACC supply. There is a vacant slot for the switch on the RHS off the dash and is quite convenient. The switch loom comes through a rubber gromet in behind the glovebox.
If you have a second battery installed on the LHS of the engine bay it's a very convenient place to pick up power for the compressor. The relay is installed just below the compressor on the inner LHS guard area.
Works just fine.
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Follow Up By: albert - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 23:28
Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 23:28
Thanks
John, the info you have given is great and I will probably fit as you suggest. I will also look at the small tank idea and may run airhose fittings from the bullbar area. Thanks again!
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