Staying overnight in WA roadside rest areas
Submitted: Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 15:41
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Member - Melissa
Hi All,
Does anyone happen to what the current laws are relating to stopping overnight in roadside rest areas etc in WA. I know it used to be that you couldn't stop within 40km's of town or CVP, but someone told me this legislation had been reversed due to traveller backlash.
:o) MelissaPetrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
Camprite TL8 offroad camper
Reply By: gary - Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 21:43
Monday, Apr 14, 2003 at 21:43
Hi Melissa,
Wife & i did from
Roxby Downs in S.A. to Karatha and back down to
perth doing roadside stop overs and had no problems at all. Most stops are sighned and with whats there ie:
toilets, shade, light, 24hr and so on.The book camps Australia wide give you a fair bit of info, saved a heap of $$ and had a great time. Most stop overs had at least 1 or 2 campers as
well, but the further up we got the more people stayed in them, have a good safe trip hope this helped.
Gary
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Reply By: geoff - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 09:05
Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 09:05
Hidey ho,
a group of us, (four cars, six adults and 6 children) did the kimberlies circuit in October last year and we only paid for
camping for a few nights in
Broome. We used a publication "
free camping in northern WA" ???? that listed all spots and amenities throughut the area, we never had any problems and would recomend it as some of the spots where absolutely glorious, (Saw pit
gorge 30 ks out of
halls creek springs immediatly to mind).
camping and map shops should carry the publication and it is worth it's weight in gold.
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Melissa - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 11:09
Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 11:09
Thanks to all who answered. We have a couple of
free camping guides and find them invaluable. We've also travelled WA extensively and in our experience
camping for free up north is easy as there are long distances between towns and plenty of crown land.
Down south of WA and in the wheatbelt regions its not so easy to find somewhere to stop. Some areas are not covered by the
free camping books or alternatively we find a
good spot that isn't in the books and wonder why not. That's why I was trying to clarify the laws.
:o) MelissaPetrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
Camprite TL8 offroad camper
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Follow Up By: Alan H - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 16:21
Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 16:21
Mellisa, listening to ABC radio in
Perth recently and heard some discussion re a new book on
camping sites by Hema Maps. Apparently it's got gps readings and where the best parts of each
campsite are and took about 18 months to
check them all out.
Their maps look good to me and they have a good name for detail, so I suspect this new one will be of a similiar standard.
Happy
camping.
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Follow Up By: Member - Melissa - Wednesday, Apr 16, 2003 at 14:22
Wednesday, Apr 16, 2003 at 14:22
Thanks Alan,
We could use an updated book and the hema one sounds good. I have found directions and locations in others can sometimes be a bit iffy but a book with waypoints should makes things easier.
Wish I'd had the job of checking out all those campsites, LOL.
:o) MelissaPetrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
Camprite TL8 offroad camper
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Reply By: Member - Jono (Perth WA) - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 13:31
Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 13:31
Melissa,
I'm not sure on the exact laws regarding staying in road stops, however i can tell you that rangers/police/council people can request that you move on. As you would know, many road stops in the South West actually have signs saying 'NO CAMPING' or similar. I have always taken the view that if there is no
sign preventing camping then I give it a go, assuming i don't know that it is not allowed in that area.
If you are stopping in a road stop and driving into the bush a bit off the road stop then you obviously need to be sure that you are not venturing onto someone's land or there could be trouble.
I have a contact in the DPI (Department of Planning and
Infrastructure) and I will send him an email today and let you know what he responds with.
I'll get back to you soon.Cheers, Jono.
Sorry bout the
pic, another one is on its way!!! GO THE SURF!!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris (W.A.) - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 19:50
Tuesday, Apr 15, 2003 at 19:50
Too bad if you've had a few beers at your
camp and are over the limit - would'nt be favourable for any authority to force people to drive after drinking. That's Today Tonight material.
Police can't issue infringements for
camping in illegal areas (only if you're on private property and refusing to leave after the owner's request - simple trespassing is a civil matter), only rangers can, therefore police would have to call up a
ranger out in the middle of nowhere to supply the paperwork - yep, not worth the effort and I can't see CALM or local shires paying the overtime. I'm sure rangers and shire reps would be understandable if you innocently thought you were doing the right thing.
At the same time, if you're in an area where the
sign says no
camping you probably deserve the penalty.Love the bush.
Chris
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Reply By: dickwho - Wednesday, Apr 16, 2003 at 14:35
Wednesday, Apr 16, 2003 at 14:35
Melissa,
There are two really excellent publications by Jan Holland (no relation) named Priceless Campsites & Rest Areas in the South of W.A. and same title in the North of W.A. They have GPS locations of the sites listed, plus a "mud map" of their location/s
We got our copies in a bookshop in
Albany, so I expect that they would be readily available throughout.
Respecting the stopping in rest areas overnight we experienced no problems, though we were told that the local council at
Kalbarri was a bit hot, but hey, what about the NSW RTA slogan "Rest, Revive, Survive". So long as you don't look like you are taking up permanent residence you should be right. Did hear a roadside story about a caravan park owner on the west coast playing at council
ranger & telling people that they couldn't roadside
camp within 40 km of a caravan park. So if in doubt ask for I.D. you are quite within your rights to do so.
We had a great trip up the WA coast except for a long weekend at Mary
Pool Rest Area (between Hall's
Creek &
Fitzroy Crossing) where we encountered some motor bike morons on Harley's from
Broome who stuffed up a real nice place by showing everyone what a moron really is.
Jan Holland has an e-mail address:
campsite@start.com.au
We'll be back this year.
Dick Holland
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Follow Up By: Member - Melissa - Thursday, Apr 17, 2003 at 13:54
Thursday, Apr 17, 2003 at 13:54
Thanks Dick,
Jan Hollands book was recently recommended by a friend so I guess I better keep an eye out for it.
Shame about the morons at Mary
Pool rest area. Unfortunately these days getting
well out of town is no guarantee of being out of range of these types. We've had a couple of bad experiences, one in CVP where the manager seemed powerless to do anything until next morning which meant the rest of us had a sleepless night.
Luckily, these type of incidents are generally still rare.
:o) Melissa Petrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
Camprite TL8 offroad camper
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Follow Up By: lizard - Thursday, Apr 17, 2003 at 18:08
Thursday, Apr 17, 2003 at 18:08
Dick , morons aplenty ... ruined a
good spot and night I bet ..... I heard Halls Crk shire was trying to close Mary
Pool ... and that the
Onslow shire (after pressure from Caravan park) was trying to close 3 mile
pool ... have you heard this ?
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Reply By: Dick Holland - Friday, Apr 18, 2003 at 09:04
Friday, Apr 18, 2003 at 09:04
Have heard nothing about Mary
Pool being closed, it will be a shame if they are allowed to do so. What are the options
Halls Creek CVP, wow! or
Old Halls Creek CVP, wow again! I had to wait in
Halls Creek for a long week end to get mail and we camped at
Caroline Pool which is on the road to Old
Halls Creek. One of the local cops put us onto that, but
Halls Creek doesn't offer much unless you like crap blowing all over the place and drunks fighting.
We are going back to WA this June but are going from
Alice Springs to
Marble Bar via
Kintore, so we won't be turning north when we hit the coast. Rather we will go south and come back east along the Trains Australia Railway access track.
Does anyone know how this is?
Dick
Dick
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Follow Up By: Allyn (Pilbara) - Friday, Apr 18, 2003 at 12:39
Friday, Apr 18, 2003 at 12:39
We spent a week in
Halls Creek one day !!!
It should be renamed it "Hells Crack"
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