Detector was of no help

Well yeh. at the moment the only thing I'll get booked for is for typing too slow with the 2 fingers, As you can see below they take no notice , must be real THICK

More than 2000 people were booked for speeding in NSW in the first 24 hours of the Easter long weekend.
Another 50 people have been charged with drink driving offences
Forty-one Tasmanians have been charged with alcohol-related driving offences in a statewide blitz

WA seems to be ok so far, maybe the threat of instant arrest is doing the job

Clive
Hey good to hear from you across the pond, Over hear it is all about Revenue , the pollies come on TV and carry on like bleedin' hearts about it's all for safety , BS, irf they were really serious they would have mild roll bars in cars , if our V8 Supercar Drivers can always walk away from 200+ crashes then why are they not istalled in discreetly in cars and 4x4s , Think about this , when ever you see a fatal crash the car is usually ripped apart or crushed because of the insane idea that it must have a crumple zone ,

Doug

Doug
It's all about revenue here as well. Having said that there's 3 dead on the roads here already and it's only Friday night. Interestingly though all three were from camper vans. We have a huge problem here with Nth Americans on which side of the road to drive. I don't know how you deal with it. re v8 drivers I know what you mean as I go to Clipsal500 every year.
CliveG (NZ)

Clive G
I know what you mean about LHD and RHD , I been to USA twice , Now it might seem radicle to say this but the few countries that have RHD should convert to LHD , I don't say this because the Yanks do it , but it would make the world all the same, would be a big plus for importers and I read somewhere about 5 years ago where a country did change and because all the drivers were being so cautious there were very few accidents, At that link below is a world map half way down ,

Site Link

Sweden changed from left to right in 1963.

>but the few countries that have RHD should convert to LHD

Eeeerrrr... I think it would make more sense if the few countries who drive on the left switched to the right:

http://www.brianlucas.ca/roadside/#listofcountries

I've never understood why people have such a problem switching from left to right or vice versa - just keep the speed down and take your time until you're comfortable with the change. Even easier if it's not your own vehicle so you're sitting on the "wrong" side and changing gear with the "wrong hand".

Mike Harding

Mike
Not sure what your thinking , or maybe did you not understand what I mean,

>but the few countries that have RHD should convert to LHD

meant Australia, UK, NZ,Japn, etc should convert , I would have thought that was as plain as day, RHD = does mean Right Hand Drive , RHD means the driver sits on the right side of the car and drives the left side of the road /
I have 2 different map websites
Site Link
explains why and how

You are talking from experience I take it .....got ya

i had a bet made that i wouldnt drive through macas naked.
now im quite prepared to take on any bet(if i know ill win) but wont risk being done for something illegal so i phoned the local police to find out the law.
so long as i dont get seen going to or from the car what i do in my car is totally up to me.
but i did laugh when they asked if id like to upsize lolol.
cheers

Exploder
Maybe yes , maybe not, depends on how you look at a situation, did you read the reply by Clive G from NZ , by having a Detector could make some drive slower, it's another revenue raising idea as far as i'm concerned, [NO i don't have one] , there is always 2 ways of looking at an accident when they occur, 1 if one of the vehicles were going faster it would not have been at X site at the precise time the other one was, 2 is of course the opposite to that , an accident is just that... fate , we can't change that , i
It's like saying if only I left earlier or later I would not have been where the brick fell , would be great eh if we could sit down to the bowl Cornflakes at breaky and see the future for the day , .....and be able to say , might leave 3 minutes later today because I'm going to be run over by a 4x4 at X intersection , ....Don't work like that,

Hee Heee

Well that’s right in a way Doug

We got off the gravel late in the arvo 4pm just out of Paynes Find yesterday, I had the Off-road trailer in tow, Pumped up the tyres, adjusted the shocks and I sat on 125km/h the hole way down the grate northern into Dalwallinu, with out issue. And probably averaged 115km/h the hole way back into Perth from there, adjusting speed as necessary to the road at the time.

To be honest if I had done 100km/h for that drive I reckon there would have been a good chance I would have found my-self dozing off behind the wheel at some point as boredom set in. This is the way I mostly drive in the country, sit on the speed I feel is suitable at the time and continually asses what is coming up ahead, going just that little bit faster bumps ya concentration and awareness level up thus keeping the brain constantly active and avoiding that 100mile stair.

This also got us home and off the road probably 1 hour or so earlier, and that could have been the difference between, hitting a roo, being involved in a head on, or any number of other scenarios that may have presented in that time.

Cheers.

Exploder,

I see you are a believer in the U Jack system. Up you Jack, I'm OK. I used to be exactly like you...10 - 15 kays over the speed limit where I felt it was safe to do so. The trouble is, I forgot about the one scenario where I couldn't control the situation.....

I was up in the Pilbara doing my usual speed on a dead straight section of road. There was a road train coming at me in the distance. Next thing I see a vehicle pulling out to overtake the road train. He was still a fair way off but I lifted the foot anyway. After a bit it became clear that this guy wasn't going to make it past the truck so I started some fair dinkum braking, then I had to go bush.

I went bush, the overtaking vehicle just nipped back in in time but was out of control and went bush on the other side and the truck went through between us.

The other guy and I both got out of our vehicles, obviously a bit shaken and checked that no harm was done. When we got to talking he said "sorry mate, I thought I had plenty of time, but when I looked at you again I realised you were going a lot faster than I anticipated. I didn't have enough time to brake and get back in behind the truck, or get past him."

I hadn't thought about that. My closing speed was more than 10% faster than it should have been - enough to affect another person's judgement call. I do the speed limit now.

Mate a very similar thing happened to me when I was a younger, the old man was driving obviously, and a Road train had stoped and was waiting for us to go past so he could turn onto a side road, we were just at the front of the truck as a 4WD pulled out from behind the very back trailer (Obviously to impatient to wait for this guy to turn, and to think to realised the truckie had not begun to turn for a reason I.E us coming the other way)

We were doing 120km/h as this guy just pulled out onto owe side of the road, the next thing I remember was dad hitting the anchors and throwing the hole car over onto the gravel shoulder fairly sideways then somehow managing to pull the car back onto the road in a cloud of tyre smoke and dust, I have no doubt that if the old man wasn’t a Cop and had done high speed driver training we would have been killed.

That above memory is burned into my brain to this day.

The thing is the old man didn’t blink an eye during the hole thing and didn’t even stop after it happened it was just a glance in the mirror (Insert swear words hear) back up to cruising speed and out of there.

If we had left home 30-40 minutes latter and were going the limit probably the same thigh would have happened, if we had left at the same time we did and were going 125km/h we would have already past that aria and it may have been another driver who had to face it and might not have faired so well.

There are simply to many variables to consider them all, some situations you can control and others you just have to sit back and take what comes at you.

I have had more than a few close calls, some of them my-fault and have taken something away from every one of them; and to be honest with you mate, the way I look at it is if ya numbers up then that is it. Life is too short to be worried about what could happen. No I am not saying I go out there and drive stupidly, I am saying I go out there and drive accordingly to what is going on at the time, Round the city I am mostly dead on the limit 90% of the time.

But regardless you have taken something away from the situation you were involved in, and have changed your driving stile to fit what you believe is the best for you.

Cheers.