RFS or IFS

Its smoother for people to take the kids to school with.


You know them gutters are killers outside the schools....

LONG LIVE COILS ALL ROUND

I’m on my 7th 4wd and use them for all sorts of travelling I have just brought a Toyota Turbo IFS and it’s the best thing since sliced bread. The ride and handling are nothing short of magnificent and the amount of articulation you loose is to my mind is only of use to those who are using 4wd to the extremes for which they are designed. (And nothing wrong with that either) Yes I have fitted a diff lock and to my estimation it makes up for what is lost when you lift a wheel from shorter suspension travel.
Before the Nissan Toyota bagging starts I have had both and am not addicted to either.
I will buy the car each time that fits the needs I have at the time. The 100 series TD is in my estimation a bit above the rest AT THE MOMENT and yes the price reflects that. But as I have said many times look at the sales figures Toyota Landcrusers are selling almost twice the numbers of Patrols.
My next wagon may very well be a Nissan and if they had done something with the 4.2 td it may have been now. But saying that they don't match the 100 for ride.
So my advice is pretty straightforward it still depends on what you want to use the vehicle for and what level of comfort you want to do it.
Oh yes the price has a big bearing too. If you can afford it and you like almost car like comfort and quietness the 100 TD is the way to go.

Does a live front axle make that much difference to comfort or handling? I'm looking at a Disco in the future and the main negative for me is the old live front axle. It seems to me that the quality of the ride must suffer with all that unsprung weight bouncing around, or doesn't it matter that much on a 2000+kg vehicle?

Stephen.

Since I really like playing on rocks I just wouldn't consider an IFS or IRS equipped rig - the wheel travel is just that much less than what can be achieve from solid axles.....
However for outback or light trails or where plenty of street driving is involved independant is an obvious winner.....
What's better - well IMHO that's always going to vary from owner to owner and just where/how they use their rig....

I was lucky enough to drive them back to back before buying my new new rig, and yes if I did spend the extra money I would be be trying to convince myself how much better IFS is too, instead I am looking to buy a new boat to go behind the mighty Patrol ;-)

The next Question should be TD Tojo vs TDl Beema they both are similar price - both are turbo deisel for 4wd cred and economy
My vote goes with the Beema's for the better ride plus with the ETC no need for the locker.

I agree with rors
It is human nature to nearly always praise your own decision and justify your expense- unless it is so bad it's a total disaster, THEN you get angry.
Me- I like simplicity and reliability.
I know which I'd rather have in the bush- but then everybody is different.
Coils were a quantum improvement over leaf springs- but IFS vs live axle- now we are talking fractions.
Cheers