Boat choice for top end trip

Submitted: Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 21:58
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I am planning a trip to around Roper Bar and the Gulf later this year and am undecided wether to tow a 4.8m centre console aluminium boat up from Vic. or use a car topper.Car topper which i dont have yet would probably be a Stacer 3.5 Seasprite or Quintrex Dart with an 8hp Yamaha.
Concerns i have are if a 3.5m boat is big enough to handle conditons and if an 8hp motor is enough to cope with the strong tides.
Any thoughts would be a great help.
Cheers.Tony
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Reply By: Leroy - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 22:29

Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 22:29
I bought a 3.5 seaprite and a 15hp Merc for a cape trips a few years back and was very happy with the hulls performance. I used it a lot from Seisa and went out to Possesion island a number of times. It was always calm when we left in the morning and by 10am when we returned it was always rough and choppy but was still happy with the size. I have a 4.75m runabout so this is what I compare it to. I would get a 15 instead of the 8h and if you are happy to tow and cop a few stone chips on your hull then I would take your 4.8m boat.

Leroy
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Reply By: Go-N-Grey (WA) - Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 22:54

Sunday, Apr 15, 2007 at 22:54
Never been to the Gulf except on board a 100' charter vessel for work, but have a 3.8 mtr Stacer with 15 HP Honda. 8HP even on a 3.2 would be under powered, used to have a 3.2 Stacer with 6HP Johnny, and two up + gear it struggled to plane particulalrly when rough, suggest 15HP.

Used to go to Depuch Island (between Roeboure & Port Hedland m\- 6.5 mtre tides) with 3.2 Stacer & 5.5HP Evinrude,(still have it - 1965 model and still goes like a clock) fill it with trevally and queenfish, but wouldn't do it now. The 5.5 handled the tides fine.
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Reply By: Tony - Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 07:35

Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 07:35
I have a 3.5 Sea-Jay Nomad, with 15hp Yamaha. Great hull shape, gets up on the plane with 3 up but a bit tight for lure casting. 2 is a lot better. Will do 35 kph with two in smooth water.

Travels on top of the vehicle, and loadand unload with a Auto Boat Loader advertised on here.
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 08:05

Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 08:05
Agree with the above comments, min 15hp on a 3.5m as there were times when we were up there with wind and tide against you it was barely enough.
If you have the bigger boat already I'd take that, the cost of another boat and outboard would be far in excess of any wear and tear on the bigger boat travelling up there.
Remember you are at sea in a remote area and will need to carry more gear (food,water, clothing etc) than you probably would at home.
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Follow Up By: Member- Tony C - Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 19:22

Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 19:22
Thanks Peter,
I was going to buy a smaller tinney to use in the rivers down here.The 4.8m is a good compromise size but am a bit restricted to finding a ramp. My reason for going for an 8hp was just for the weight side of things carrying the motor up and down the bank.Probably am much better off going for a 15hp for the benefits gained on the water.
I thought the smaller boat would be an advantage to access more remote areas.It sounds like i'm probably better to use 4.8 and have the ability to travel bigger distances on the water.
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Reply By: barra man - Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 08:13

Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 08:13
I have a 3.7 quintrex traveller with a 15hp suzuki it is a great car topper with a rhino boat loader.We have fished the roper river but not at roper bar. the suzuki is a 4 stroke because of the distance we travel. most of the rivers up that way snake there way to the coast and the 4 stroke gives you better fuel range.the other reason we picked a 4 stroke was we are camped in remote locations and you can only carry so much fuel. the only down side is the weight of the 4 stroke.

regards barrman
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Reply By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 08:26

Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 08:26
Tony,
If you end up taking the bigger boat then I suggest that you get some shade cloth and lay it over the trailer, cut around the rollers etc and hold it down with some wooden battens or aluminium strips. Make some sort of simple frame to bring it up around the bow. A sort of 'boat bra'.

I did this years ago when I towed a fibre glass boat all over the place on dirt roads. It seemed to make a difference as I did not get nearly as many chips and dings.

I know aluminium are much more robust in this regard but it may be worth the effort - not much $ cost just time.

Have fun whatever you end up doing.

alastair
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Follow Up By: Member- Tony C - Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 19:30

Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 19:30
Alister,
Thanks, good idea.I have already copped a few stone chips.Was going to fit one of those full width mud flaps to reduce the problem.Trailer has a mesh walkway wich was told would reduce stone chips but really doesnt help much.Will look into your idea.
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Reply By: molzy - Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 08:29

Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 08:29
we took a 3.75m quintrex dart and a 15 hp merc 2 stroke. have carried this on a hilux ute and also an 80 series wagon. 15hp will push 2-3 people with ease and 3.75 m boat copes with rough conditions reasonably well( read wet if rough).
We now have a 3.9 dart with 25hp which we tow on an offroad boat trailer and find this easier as everything is set up ready to go at anytime. sometimes it would be too much effort when rooftopping to get everything together for a short fishing stop.
Your trailer would have to be pretty well built to survive this trip. we went last year and saw a couple of trailers in various states with owners camped beside the road while waiting for parts. enjoy the fishing! molzy
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 09:20

Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 09:20
Molzy ,

3.75 Dart and 15 Merc - that is my rig too . Perfect on the Daly and can handle a bit of chop on the coast . I carry it on top of my Trak Shak .

I think 15 HP is a min. for up there .

Re ; Your Kimberley question .
I will be leaving for the Kimberley on May 19 - straight to the Mitchell Plateau - hope we can get through too . The locals reckon we will .

Willie .
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Follow Up By: Member- Tony C - Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 19:49

Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 19:49
Thanks Molzy,
I like to fish in fresh and salt so its hard to get the ideal boat setup.I used to have a 5.2m boat and 3.7 to cover both and this worked well.I went for the 4.8 as a bit of a compromise to cover both bases and cut costs. In hindsight the earlier setup worked well.
The trailer is an offroad Mackay wich should be ok although the tyres supplied i,m not sure about they are a conventional road tyre 13'' called Event.
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Reply By: Smudger - Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 11:34

Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 11:34
For my money, when you're in the water with a big lizard, the more freeboard the better. The roads across the Top are OK for towing a boat, you won't need to leave the sealed road (albeit a single lane), unless you have access to private stations. In fact there are only a few places to access the Gulf. Stone guard would be a smart option.
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Reply By: Member- Tony C - Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 19:54

Monday, Apr 16, 2007 at 19:54
Thanks everyone for taking the time to answer my question.Its been agreat help.
Cheers
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