Pioneer Onyx Camper Trailers-Owners
Submitted: Saturday, Apr 21, 2007 at 20:40
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Would like to hear from any owners of the above camper re pros and cons as i am keen to find out how they perform .
Thanks HK
Reply By: The Rambler( W.A.) - Saturday, Apr 21, 2007 at 21:00
Saturday, Apr 21, 2007 at 21:00
Ihave the Argysle S.E. which is the one down from the Onyx but all the basics are the same .I am VERY happy with the cam[per and it is very
well built with all that I will need for the bush.It is very
well priced to compete with the other similar campers and the people here in
Perth are very helpfull with any info. that you might need.
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Reply By: Member - outback2 (WA) - Saturday, Apr 21, 2007 at 22:19
Saturday, Apr 21, 2007 at 22:19
We have a Pioneer Bushman off road..purchased new in early 2004. I spent countless hours / days looking at all the opposition campers..including the
Kimberley Camper but value for money they stood out...less towball weight than the
Kimberley and built like the brick sh**house...
I also went to the factory and observed the various stages of construction to satisfy myself they were built to last...Since then we have towed it in
places that has caused a few raised eyebrows when we turn up in those spots towing...very reliable, strong and sensible..I believe they have added a few more tins & whistles since but as long as the basics fundamentals of construction hasn't changed you will not regret owing one
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi B - Saturday, Apr 21, 2007 at 23:03
Saturday, Apr 21, 2007 at 23:03
HK,
Have owned one for almost 2 years now. Not sure what aspect of performance you're asking about, (camping or towing) but seems to be pretty good for both. Got extra water, 190ltr total, and spent 5 months in it last winter (3000kms on-road and off-road). Also wasn't keen on electric breaks so got it with override discs. Good solid unit and will follow vehicle almost any where you can take a vehicle. Me quite a happy camper.
You can stow a lot of gear in that big front box, which can load-up the drawbar weight to a huge amount, but no drama at all.
Happy headscratching,
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Follow Up By: HK - Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 09:42
Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 09:42
Thanks for all replies so far-could you let me know why you selected hydraulic over electric brakes?
Thanks
HK
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi B - Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 10:03
Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 10:03
HK,
Main reason was to get disc brakes cos those drum/electric set-ups looked too complex to this fulla. Wasn't keen on the idea of drums full of dust etc. but that's just a personal thing and the discussion/arguement for and against each system will go on for many years to come.
Got to admit tho that there would be some definite advantage in being able to reverse the thing by just turning of the control instead of climbing out and throwing the little tag over then "remembering" to undo the previous step (age related)
Dunno about availability of electric discs.
Good-luck,
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Reply By: Alan H - Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 11:46
Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 11:46
Hi HK.
I've got an Agyle and agree mostly with what others say with a couple of reservations.
The 12v outlets on the outside are crap and the covers deteriate and fall off after a couple of months and let dust/mud and anything else in. Cheap and nasty.
The bolts holding the Treg hitch on go rusty very quickly and I wouldn't have thought it would have taken much to paint them with some anti corrosion of some kind. I'll do it myself soon.
Where the bed is hinged the screws quickly tore out of the wood but these things (apart from the rusty bolts) were fixed without any quibbles from Pioneer.
Overall though we're very pleased with it but feel some extra attention to details like these could be useful.
Happy camping.
Alan H.
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Reply By: Transient - Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 22:30
Sunday, Apr 22, 2007 at 22:30
I had an Argyle bought in 2005. Very pleased with it but then saw the Argyle SE with the gullwings for the fridge and gennie so I sold the Argyle for what it cost me (got to be happy with that) and bought an SE. I am taking it back for a couple of specific warranty repairs and will be expecting big things from them, after all, over two years I have spent $50K with them. I will let you know how I go but I feel, at this stage, that Pioneer have cut a few corners to save some dollars and that has been a detrimental move.
Let's hope I will stand corrected because it is a good WA product that deserves success.
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Follow Up By: HK - Monday, Apr 23, 2007 at 22:07
Monday, Apr 23, 2007 at 22:07
Interested in hearing what problems you are haveing and where you feel they have cut corners
Thanks HK
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Reply By: Gronk - Monday, Apr 23, 2007 at 09:38
Monday, Apr 23, 2007 at 09:38
Have a friend who has an Argyle SE and he is happy with it.. would agree with the 12V socket on the side, the rubber stopper is perished already and the attention to detail is ordinary , but I'm biased because I own a KK !!
The gull wing box ( in which he has his fridge ) can't be ventilated on dusty roads as there isn't a ventilation kit available !!!
The idea of having to hook up a gas hose everytime you want to use the kitchen is a real turnoff !!
The bedbase is flimsy, don't do any "heavy" stuff on it !!
Would I buy one ? No, because there are better ( and dearer !! ) CT's out there....
Should you buy one ? Why not, they are a pretty
well made CT and no doubt will do the job !!
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