Snorkel woes
Submitted: Monday, Apr 21, 2003 at 19:51
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BM
Hi All,
I was doing a pre trek
check this weekend and noticed that my aircleaner had come apart from the inner guard
snorkel connection. Has anyone seen this happen before? The intake pipe to the aircleaner was only sealed with silicone, no actual physical connection. Hence to say that air and presumably water if I had gone deep enough, is being drawn in at this point. Have any other Patrol 3.0TD owners had this experience?
Snorkel(Safari) had only been fitted 2 months ago.
Thanks,
Brendan
Reply By: Kev - (Cairns,QLD) - Monday, Apr 21, 2003 at 20:13
Monday, Apr 21, 2003 at 20:13
Good point to bring up ,
When i bought my Cruiser i removed the air intake piping and checked for cracks ect, replaced the original hose clamps with beter ones and sealed all the connections to make sure its all water proof.
Also watch out for the Landcruiser utes with the two-piece snorkels that are ony rated for dust and not for water crossings !
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Reply By: Andrew - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2003 at 00:39
Tuesday, Apr 22, 2003 at 00:39
BM
I also have the 3.0TD Patrol with a Safari
snorkel.
I had been feeling a vibration through the vehicle a certain revs (usually @ 2500rpm). When I explored under the bonnet I could hear a sqeaking noise, like a fan belt or similar. It took a while but I discovered it was the air intake from the guard to the air cleaner squeaking away at the join. When I looked closer I noticed it was sucking air from the join. NOT HAPPY.
I contacted ARB who had a look. The guy stuck his hand into the intake and pulled out a lump of silicone that use to seal the join. It had come loose, split, and was causing the squeak.
He said that it was just the way it was and it had to be resealed. I only had it fitted 6 months ago.
I'm blown away. Can't believe after all I have read about Safari snorkels (the best)
well, maybe not!!!! that this is how they are made.
Anyway, the best advise I can give you is what I was told, and that is....After resealing the join, don't start the car for about 3 hours of you can help it. Because the sucking action of a diesel is so strong, this can ruin the join if it is not properly set before use.
That's what I was told anyway.!!
Hope this helps.
regards
Andy
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Follow Up By: BM - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2003 at 14:30
Tuesday, Apr 22, 2003 at 14:30
thanks for the reply Andy. I cannot believe that it simply relies upon the silicone sealant to maintain the bond between the guard and the cleaner box. I called Safari but they are on holidays. Will call again next week and try and find out more.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2003 at 16:20
Tuesday, Apr 22, 2003 at 16:20
Let me know how you get on BM
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Reply By: Member -BJ (Sydney) - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2003 at 17:36
Tuesday, Apr 22, 2003 at 17:36
I have a 3.0 TD with safarie been on 2 years & had no problems but will
check joint as were going to the Gulf in July . If it's only been 2 months take back to fitter to fix.Wish i was still here / Gulf in July
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Reply By: Member - Richard - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2003 at 20:40
Tuesday, Apr 22, 2003 at 20:40
Seems this might be something for Nissan owners to
check. I bought my 2001 GU 3.0TD new and had a genuine Nissan
snorkel fitted from the dealer, while checking under bonnet for a trip on the Canning 4 months later, I discovered the same pipe had separated from the guard. Back it went to the dealer and yes black silicon was the answer! Bit of a shame if your not vigilant because it is a very unlikely spot to have to
check and I pointed this out to the dealer.
No problems since then but I always
check thoroughly, also the flexy hose from air box to engine, as the folds can split and you would never know until the engine is working hard and
the gap opens up.
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Reply By: Kev - (Cairns,QLD) - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2003 at 21:29
Tuesday, Apr 22, 2003 at 21:29
Isnt there something beter to seal these hoses than silicon ?
I was told to use stickerflex as it will seal very
well (also use clamps)
Not sure what this is as iv never used it !
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Follow Up By: Member - Neil & Lynne(Bunbury) - Wednesday, Apr 23, 2003 at 10:30
Wednesday, Apr 23, 2003 at 10:30
Use this product ONLY if you know you will never need to separate the joint again.
You could build a caravan body with this stuff and not use a screw type fitting and it would last forever. Even good for re-fixing floppy shoe soles.
Its one of those 'never leave
home without' products.Life's too short to say .. "I can't do that !"
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Follow Up By: Kev - (Cairns,QLD) - Wednesday, Apr 23, 2003 at 18:15
Wednesday, Apr 23, 2003 at 18:15
Yeah i was also told that, they said you would have to cut the hose off if you need to remove it..............Sounds good to me !
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Reply By: BM - Wednesday, Apr 23, 2003 at 16:46
Wednesday, Apr 23, 2003 at 16:46
Thanks for all of the replies, still going to
check with Safari next week, bit for now I have got hold of some stickerflex and I will give this a go.
cheers,
brendan
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Reply By: Stuart W - Sunday, Apr 27, 2003 at 02:36
Sunday, Apr 27, 2003 at 02:36
The stuff you're after is called "Sikaflex", not "stickaflex"! And yes, it's meant to be bloody strong(and more expensive).
Stuart
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Follow Up By: BM - Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 09:17
Monday, Apr 28, 2003 at 09:17
Thanks Stuart,
I bought some last week and yes it is expensive, especially since I only needed a small amount. It has done the trick though. Ended up removing second battery and tray and then the airfilter box. Cleaned off what was left of the standard silicone and went to town with the sikaflex. Not as easy as taking it back, but at least I know that it has been done properly.
thanks for all of the relplies.
cheers,
Brendan
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