Doing the Canning on Petrol

Submitted: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 13:46
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So Bucky asked if we wanna do the canning in just over 2 yrs......is it doable on petrol (...we got lpg too so that is our sub tank.....)....our tank about 70lt.

has anyone done it with petrol ( and an lpg tank) .......????

Just got it in the back of my mind...it'd be the one thing that will stop us from going if we have to convert to deisel or sell it for another......

Laura
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Reply By: Voxson - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 13:58

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 13:58
I wouldnt consider it...
When your lpg runs out you will have about 150km range in sand etc....
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Reply By: Gramps (NSW) - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 14:01

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 14:01
Laura,

It looks like quite a few on here have done it Trekfuel
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 14:17

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 14:17
Why do you think you couldn't do the CSR with a Petrol vehicle?? Assuming you may average about 20l/100km- then you would need about 360l to do the trip.
Obviously you have the Cruiser all set up the way you like it- so why change !!

For the CSR trip you could:
-Drop out the LPG tank and fit an auxilliary fuel tank and
-Carry a few 20l Jerry Cans- and allow for a 200l drop at Well23 (Capricorn Roadhouse Dump)

With a bit of fore-sight & planning (and a bit of modification), you should have no probs...
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 18:10

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 18:10
20l per hundred is about what they get on the highway in good conditions I would have though usage would be much higher on the canning
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Follow Up By: Diver1 - Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 16:58

Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 16:58
In sand with low revs we averaged about 23 lph

Laura

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Reply By: Baldrick - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 14:40

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 14:40
Lots of people have done it, but I would allow for a much higher than average fuel consumption. I took a V8 110 Land Rover through Rudall River, Tallawana Track across the Stock Route, Gary Hwy, Gunbarrel a few years ago and I reckon I averaged 30l/100km. Granted this was an old carby motor but during some stages in soft sand you could watch the fuel gauge dropping. I was carrying 300L of fuel, including LPG, picked up 200L at Well 23, and I still had to borrow some. Made it into Carnegie station on vapour. I wasn't even that heavily loaded, apart from fuel, as I was on my own in the vehicle.
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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 15:08

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 15:08
G'day Baldrick
I think a reasonably modern EFI 6cyl petrol might be a lot more fuel efficient than a V8 carby job- especially in 'hard work' situations.
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Follow Up By: Baldrick - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 19:54

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 19:54
No doubt at all. But I was in a much lighter vehicle than a fully laden Patrol though. Just food for thought.
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Reply By: Baldrick - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 14:41

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 14:41
...oh and also, be very careful of spinifex, petrol vehicles are much more likely to catch fire due to the hotter exhaust and more volatile fuel.
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Reply By: Russ n Sue - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 15:40

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 15:40
quote "So Bucky asked if we wanna do the canning in just over 2 yrs......is it doable on petrol"

Geez, you must have plenty of time on your hands if you can spare two years to do the CSR. Most people allow about three weeks.

Sorry........ couldn't help myself.
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 15:53

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 15:53
Now come on Russ lets be fare, it is Yota after all LOL
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Reply By: Steve63 - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 16:23

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 16:23
You see plenty of petrol vehicles out there. One short wheelbase cruiser was carting 400l of ulp! That was meant to get them the whole length of the CSR though. Not sure how they went, the same couple were trying to drive the whole length in 6 days. I expect the logistics around carting enough fuel with a 70 litre tank will be interesting. Doable...... maybe. I expect you are going to need to think outside the square. Your rig pic indicates you have done plenty of sand driving so you should have a good idea of fuel usage. All maths from there. A fuel bladder may be an option.

Good luck.

Steve
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Reply By: The Fox - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 16:59

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 16:59
We went in a convoy on a tag-along tour. I had diesel defender 200tdi, neighbour had diesel 80 series cruiser. Friend had petrol toyo 4 runner.
Tour organser insisted diesels carry 240 litres, petrol 350 litres.
Travelled north to south. Pre ordered fuel at fuel dump. Neighbour and i went halves in 205? litre diesel. Mate had to buy full drum cause no other petrol vehciles. Joked that he would have to leave some behind.
Got to fuel dump. I had no room to take on my half a drum, the neighbour got a bones 20 litres from me. The toyo had no problem taking on the full drum.
At the south end, the toyo was crapping himself that he might not make it, but he did. I didn't bother filling up till Norsman for the Nullabor.
It is possibe, but you need a lot of storage!

Trevor
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 05:48

Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 05:48
Hi Trevor

What did your usage work out to be? I'm looking to do it sometime within the next 12 months.

thanks in advance.

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Follow Up By: The Fox - Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 07:11

Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 07:11
Landy,

<180 litres, Halls Gap to Wiluna.

Was made to carry 240, even though we got fuel at the fuel dump. I've got a 120 odd litre main tank, and built a 60 litre one under the rear seat. The 3 additional jerrries were a pain and i wouldn't carry them again. We had 3 adults and a 14 yr old, so we had enough already on the racks and the back of the wagon. We carried 160 litres of water as well! Tents, swags, food, beer, cooking stuff. It all adds up.

200 tdi wagon did fantastic job.

The petrol 4 runner kept getting bogged on the sand hills. All that revving and having a few goes at each sand hill adds heaps to the consumption. He got snatched out a few times, and dug out once - couldn't open the doors! The Landy just cruised over 99.9% of the time. Only had to put the landy in reverse once, though i had to get snatched out of (un)Savory Creek. Got stuck in the same hole as the Cruiser in front of me.

Trevor
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 21:17

Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 21:17
Thanks for that Trevor.....
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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 18:06

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 18:06
The other thing to consider is that the first available ULP will be at Halls Creek as Billiluna were not stocking it last season. Only had the one portable Diesel pump operating. Mick.
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 18:06

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 18:06
We had a petrol GQ accompanying our diesel druisers when we did the CSR, the troopy used 160l for the northern section from well 23 to Halls crk, the patrol used nearly 300l. He took on 400l at well 23, he always waited to see where the campfire was before he camped downwind ;-)).
Another trip across the Simpson the petrol GQ used 300l to the diesel cruisers 160l
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 18:16

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 18:16
Most of the tracks were blazed by petrol 4x4's. Diesel 4x4's have only become readily available since the late '70's and popular in the 80's which many seem to forget.

Stick to the rule of the 7 P's and you shouldn't go wrong.

Prior
Preparation and
Planning
Prevents
bleep
Poor
Performance

A diesel would be preferable of course, but not essential. Keep in mind that although the 1FZ-FE motor certainly does like a drink, it goes it goes like stink, has way more torque than the 1HZJ diesel and has an excellent record for long term reliability. Drop the LPG for the journey and whack in a long range tank instead.
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Follow Up By: George_M - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 19:04

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 19:04
Good one, digger
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 18:43

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 18:43
Laura,

Last year a petrol Patrol run out of fuel 15km short of Well 33. Another vehicle was sent to bring back fuel for that vehicle.

When he filled up with all the fuel that he could get on board the bill was just under $900. $2.80cpl I would expect it to be dearer this year.

I will have a petrol 100 Series in the convey this year and I will let you know how much fuel it uses.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Vince NSW - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 20:31

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 20:31
You guys are making me worry about the amount of ULP I will be carrying for the Simpson this year. (220 lt) for the V6 Fronteria.
Vince
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 20:42

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 20:42
Vince,

220lt should be OK to do the crossing,if the wind does not blow from the east or it starts to rain,again.

Just had a look at the Trek notes on this site and it gives a average fuel usage for different types of motors.

When do you plan to do the crossing and in what direction?

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Vince NSW - Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 11:51

Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 11:51
Good Morning Wayne,
West to east in July . Hope to Leave Mt Dare on or about 10 th July.
I read the treck notes & thats what I based my fuel on, but the above comments have me a bit worried.

vINCE
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Reply By: rustytruck - Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 22:10

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 22:10
Remember you will in all liklihood have fuel at Billiluna (new fuel system has been installed and have been assured it will never run out of either petrol or diesel - despite what the shark at Rabbit Flat says), Well 33 and Well 23 so the long leg is Well 23 to Wiluna and that is the easy section. With some jerries you will have no problem and save the LPG for Well 23 to Wiluna sector as a reserve backup. Enjoy the trip and do the sums for the number of jerries to carry - do not just rely on old data and hearsay. Last August the fuel - any fuel - at Well 33 was $3.30 a litre. He has a fairly captive market :) A couple of phone calls to check fuel availability just before leaving gives that warm fuzzy feeling too.
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Reply By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 03:36

Thursday, May 03, 2007 at 03:36
Don't you love forward planning, we are working people in the Dairy Industry, and we have to plan ahead, to organise $$$$$ and holidays
Now to chuck in another variable ,, we could be heading off from here in late May, ( 2009 ) depending on the weather conditions, and be back by August ( 2009 )
That has to be seen yet.

Cheers
Bucky
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