Will 35's fit under a GU with 2" lift??

Submitted: Friday, May 04, 2007 at 23:01
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G'day peoples, just wanted to gather your collective thoughts on whether you reckon I can stick a set of ProComp 315/70/R16's under an 04 GU 4.2 that has about 2"s of lift (King Springs and OzTec(?) shocks). These are a 35" x 12" or 13" equivalent in the old money - as far as I can gather from the spec sheet.

I was all set to shod it with Cooper STT's in a 305/70/R16, but for the extra $20 a tyre I think I would like to give the ProComp's a run. My only concern is that they might scrub. I'm fairly certain they won't be a problem as I've already had one gentelman look at it and say 'no worries'- I just like to reinforce the opinion! (I can be a little pedantic like that - especially when its a fair whack of your hard earned:) )

Thanks in advance all.
Fleggy
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Reply By: Fleggy - Friday, May 04, 2007 at 23:11

Friday, May 04, 2007 at 23:11
Sorry guys, that should have been 315/75/R16's, not 70!
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, May 04, 2007 at 23:19

Friday, May 04, 2007 at 23:19
Reckon they would scrub using standard wheels.

My 315/75s are mounted on Trak II ROH sunraysias which have an extra 20mm offset compared to the OE wheels.

Also, my rig has 4" lift and a slightly bigger donk. I reckon the 4.2 would struggle with the 35's and I reckon you'd need the 4" lift if you stick with the standard wheels.

Cheers

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Fleggy - Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 00:13

Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 00:13
Thanks Roachie, would it make a difference if I was mounting them on Simex Dynamic 16x8 rims? I suspect not as I'm pretty sure they are a standard offset.

I also had some concerns about whether the 4.2 could push them or not, but I was told that it should handle it, but not the 3 ltr.

Might have to take another look at the sizes... I really do like the ProComps!
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 09:15

Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 09:15
Procomp do 33's too
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 20:22

Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 20:22
'I also had some concerns about whether the 4.2 could push them or not, but I was told that it should handle it, but not the 3 ltr. '

you don't know what you're talking about.

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Follow Up By: Fleggy - Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 23:31

Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 23:31
Thanks Leroy for pointing that out - hence the reason for the questions above. I like your subtlety mate. Instead of just telling me why I don't know what I'm talking about, how about expanding on your profound statement?
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Monday, May 07, 2007 at 08:03

Monday, May 07, 2007 at 08:03
Subtle as a bowling ball! maybe I should of said your informant! But my comments would be irrelevant because you have a 4.2 hence me not expanding a little more. Also you could of probably fitted larger Pro Comps than the 285 as they fit under a GU3 with offset rims but may foul the front mud flap of a GU4 from what others have said and apparently even 285's do.

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Follow Up By: Fleggy - Monday, May 07, 2007 at 21:02

Monday, May 07, 2007 at 21:02
Heh, no worries Leroy, fair enough. I was just a little startled at the response. I really can't comment myself on these things cos I have no idea, so I rely on what people tell me and try and make sense of it all. That's part of the reason I planning on joing a fourby club very soon. That and being able to get out with others to enjoy it! Hopefully I will make a decision soon!
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, May 04, 2007 at 23:32

Friday, May 04, 2007 at 23:32
Friend of mine I wheeled with had 36s on his... with Beadlock rims, the correct offset, they were fine.

+ its been asked before.
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Follow Up By: Fleggy - Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 00:15

Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 00:15
Thanks for the info Truckster - maybe I should enquire about different rims perhaps.

Apologies for the repeat question - still wrestling with the search function on this forum. Just on that, should you be using the + or AND for searching multiple key words??
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Follow Up By: Fleggy - Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 00:41

Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 00:41
Hey Truckster, also, what would the correct offset be - can you recall? And would it be negative (does that exist??) so they fit under the guards, or positive? My lack of knowledge on these subjects knows no bounds... I'm keen to learn though!
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Follow Up By: srowlandson - Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 10:52

Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 10:52
I ran my GU with the TJM Heavy Duty 50mm lift on landcruiser offset beadlocked rims with 36" tyres, would scrub slightly if it hit the bump stops, I never got around to adjusting the bump stop to suit.

when running 315 Procomp XTerrains on the factory Heavy duty steel rims they scrubbed more but again, if i had adjusted the bump stop it would have been minimal.

the GU drove a lot better withthe 35" Procomps. Great tyre.
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Reply By: Fleggy - Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 00:43

Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 00:43
Failing that (the 315/75/R16), what is another size(s) in the ProComp range that would be suitable to my setup do you think?
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 09:16

Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 09:16
285/75-16 would fit easy ProComp do those too
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 07, 2007 at 23:20

Monday, May 07, 2007 at 23:20
285/75x16 MTR's fit excellent, and work brilliantly.. will get another set
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Reply By: Wayne-o - Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 01:01

Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 01:01
i have a 3" lift, and the 285/75R16's fit fine, the only diff is the 315's are wider. but as for the donk turning them, don't sweat, the 4.2 iTD will turn em fine, specially if ya dont the exhaust or turbo. They will howerver scrub at full lock, but simply buy wheel spacers from snake racing, and no longer a problem.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 20:18

Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 20:18
wheel spacers are illegal ;) but then again, so are 285's and 315's lol
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 22:02

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 22:02
Quote: " the 285/75R16's fit fine, the only diff is the 315's are wider."

Sorry mate, but that just isn't correct. 285's are near enough to 33" diameter, whilst 315s are closer to 35" diamter (as well as being 30mm wider).

The 4.2TDi would, IMHO, certainly be adversely affected by the fitment of 315s
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Reply By: yakodi - Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 07:22

Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 07:22
Mannell Motors run 35's on their GU - with 5inch lift - suggesting no scrubbing!
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Reply By: SA_Patrol - Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 07:52

Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 07:52
Why not buy 15" rims and tyres it'll be heaps cheaper then the 16' s
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Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 14:26

Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 14:26
Hi there Fleggy, I know a bloke with 35's on his and had to put new panard rods on the rear (adjustable) to realign the the rear diff as it was scrubbing 33's no problems but 35's his did scrub so he has since put a 4 inch lift in it. He has also lost a fair bit of pull up hills I presume that is due to the larger wheels/tyres. Maybe he just said all that to his wife so he could get new suspension who knows only going by what he told me. He says it still scrubs on full lock and NRMA will not touch him now due to the 4 inch lift they will only go 2 inch and only an inch wider than standard rims, if this is some thing you may have over looked but plenty out there who will insure you if you make the changes. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: Granpa Joe - Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 19:35

Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 19:35
G'day Fleggy,
I run 35 x 12.5 x 15 mickey thompson baja claw radials on standard 15" x 8" landcruiser/patrol standard offsett rims, When I had the first set of tyres it was with a 2 inch lift and found that I had less clearance when I did the 4 inch lift resulting in putting a pair of control arm spacers to stop any front wheel arch touch at awkward articulated angles.

If you whack a set of 15 x 8 inch rims on the patrol you will find that the tyres are cheaper in the imperial sizing ....phenomally and you have an extra inch diameter of tyre sidewall for when you are running super low tyre pressures offroad bouldering.

They fit easily. I hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: Granpa Joe - Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 19:38

Saturday, May 05, 2007 at 19:38
oh yeah...... My patrol is a ZD 30 motor and the tyres don't slow her down, has more power and toque than the 4.2 td remember.
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Reply By: Fleggy - Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 20:19

Sunday, May 06, 2007 at 20:19
Thanks everyone for the feedback. Seeing as $'s are at a premium and I can really only afford the rubber, I'll probably give all the u-beaut suggestions of spacers, extra lifts, different mags etc a miss (I've just purchased new 16x8 rims) and go with a set of 33 x 12.5 equivalents in either the ProComp or Mickey T's. I don't really need the 35's, but they sure would be nice - one day :)
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Follow Up By: Granpa Joe - Monday, May 07, 2007 at 17:56

Monday, May 07, 2007 at 17:56
You can still get 15x 8 inch landcruiser/patrol offset ROH steel rims for about $60.00 each if you make a few calls, if you get them and the 35's you will probably find it is still cheaper.
I got my Mickey t Baja Claws Radials for 300 bucks each and at the time the only thing cheaper available was the Khumo MT's for $280.
I will probably be getting the pro Comp AT's next time as they have even more chipping resistance on rubbly tracks and higher milage than the Baja Claws. (Unless my tyre supplier does the Goodyear MTR's for less than my last pair of course)
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Monday, May 07, 2007 at 22:43

Monday, May 07, 2007 at 22:43
15" rims will only fit on the GU I as on later models they won't fit over the brake caliper.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Macca_GU - Tuesday, May 08, 2007 at 01:02

Tuesday, May 08, 2007 at 01:02
G'day Leroy,

guess it comes down to the rims and the offset. The 15x8 ROH rims I normally run on my GQ with muddies fit on my GU IV no probs. Have used them on a few trips.

Cheers.....Macca
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Follow Up By: Granpa Joe - Tuesday, May 08, 2007 at 18:33

Tuesday, May 08, 2007 at 18:33
Leroy,
My patrol is a series III 2002 and they fit fine and the offsett on the axles is almost identical to a mm or 2, later on I got a set of -ve 30 offset 15x8 alloy mags and still they fitted even with stick on lead balancing weights on the inside of the rims!
The ROH standard landcruizer/patrol 15x8 steel rim is the most common aftermarket 4x4 rim on the australian market, It doesn't fit the IFS hilux(offset change) and it doesn't fit the new IFS cruisers as far as I know.
Look on the ROH website as a guide BUT remember the guide is mainly for selecting the same diameter rim or larger.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 09:28

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 09:28
I've seen 16" procomp wheels foul the caliper of a GU3 so I suppose it's a matter of sucking it and seeing.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Granpa Joe - Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 17:10

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 17:10
If you read above, they fit on a GU IV as Macca said. Maybe it was a 4.8 petrol with larger rotors that you are talking about, but as for the diesel models there is no "Sucking it and see".......... They fit fine . As for Pro Comp wheels maybe they do foul?, Maybe they were the ones set in deeper for the IFS cruiser or hilux ? but that has nothing to do with the ROH wheels I am talking about.

Cheers , Leon
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 19:57

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 19:57
I did read above Granpa and have experince with Procomp rock crawler 16' rims with landcruiser offset and GU3 with a diesel not a petrol so obviously there is sucking it and seeing it as a mate also had a GU1 with 15" rims that wouldn't fit later models. I'm sorry for discrediting the ROH wheels you are talking about.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Granpa Joe - Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 23:35

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 23:35
Hey Leroy,
I don't think you are getting the point that Pro Comp rims have absolutely nothing to do with the wheels "I" was talking about , Although Maybe you are trying to push the point that pro comp rims are poorly designed.
The only reason I mentioned the ROH rims is that they are cheap as chips and they Fit nicely. ; ) allowing you to make use of the much much cheaper 35x12.5 inch tyres available on the market.

Sorry for hijacking the thread Fleggy,

cio'
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Follow Up By: Fleggy - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 18:24

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 18:24
Hey, no worries at all fella's - I'm learning lots, and debate is always healthy :)
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 20:53

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 20:53
Sorry pops I was just pointing out that not all rims seem what they appear 15" and 16". I'm estatic that the ROH 15" rims fit on your GU, surprised a little but estatic. So this being the case you have to suck it and see. You may not even see a prob until you put new brake pads in and suddenly you can't get your wheel back on. One to be aware of to Fleggy.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Granpa Joe - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 22:43

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 22:43
Suddenly can't get the wheel back on? Did it mutate or change size after playing with it's wheel nuts ? : )
Fleggy, they fit with new brake pads or old pads with the Roh jobbies O.K. No scrubbing or scraping I have been running 15's since it was purchased from the dealership without a problem to speak of as far as rim/wheel clearance goes. Take note of the next post though, I massaged the mud flap bracket a bit out of the way with a heat gun and a peice of wood (only approx 5mm back) to clear at near full lock, others just remove the front mudflaps or trim the little bit the tyre fouls on off with a hacksaw blade, works a treat.

Leroy, I am right and you are wrong Full stop end of sentence pull out the plans for the bridge, get it built and get over it , goodnight australia and every one else, yes the world is flat. lol
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Friday, May 11, 2007 at 08:24

Friday, May 11, 2007 at 08:24
What are you right about pops? I give another point of view and some extra tips to be aware of and iyou get all upset. Nothing I have said is wrong and is based on experience rather than hear say.

Also Fleggy you won't have to 'massage the mudflap bracket with a heat gun' etc as you have the same model as I and I have 285 BFG MT's on with no issues.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Granpa Joe - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 20:08

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 20:08
If you actually read the post snapper head , you would have realised we were talking about 35x 12.5x 15's they run a little close to the mud flaps OK? so step back and read the whole post next time buddy.

Re read the whole thing mate. I am informing Fleggy on what will fit OK with the way his vehicle is set up and you are telling him the sky is going to fall on his head if he runs the 15 inch rims with 35x12.5x15 tyres that I am letting him know about.
The forum is to help people benefit from others that have already been down the path and seen the outcome not to dooms day the whole thought of trying or going ahead with a task. I understand your advice of being cautious, I am sure he will be but as I had said many times over that there is no problem with the set up I have described. Your argument about pro comp wheels is fine but I am talking about chalk and you are talking about cheese.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 20:53

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 20:53
I know what size (and brand incidentally) you are talking about and like I said before am very pleased for you and as you pointed out the forum is here to help. You see Fleggy hasn't taken your advice and bought 15" rims. He has bought 16" rims and maybe because of the I have had and others he would of asked extra questions before he made his purchase that he normally wouldn't of thought of. So pops, cool down dude....you'll blow an artery!

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Granpa Joe - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 21:15

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 21:15
lol : ),
Actually blew one just a few hour ago , I lost a 1.5m Jewfish at the side of the boat as I didn't have a gaff.x@#$*&@#$# By the way, I am going to call you snapper head until you stop calling me pops. lol
I did see that he had bought 16's already, was just a suggestion with the smaller rims as they are dirt dirt cheap to buy, as are the imperial sized tyres. I can't believe the price jump in the metric sizes, like highway robbery theres not much left in the wallet afterwards.

Good to see you have a sense of humor Leroy,

Leon
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 21:42

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 21:42
I'd of blown one too. Couldn't go out for Tuna off Portland today.....any other weekend would of been fine so I know what I'd rather be doing.
Leroy
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Reply By: geordie4x4 - Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 23:50

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 23:50
I just fitted Pro Comp Xterrain 285 x 75/16 on standard offset steel 16x8" wheels to my GU series IV with 2" lift and only had to trim the inside edge of the front mud flap.
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Reply By: Fleggy - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 23:06

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 23:06
Just an update; called past the dealer again tonight and had a look at a few different tyres that were already inflated and on rims - have decided on the ProComp Xterrains 305/75/R16's to go on the Simex Dynamic black rims I purchased a week ago. Should be ready to go on the rig some time next week. I'll update my rig pic once they are on and let you know how I go with them off the beaten track!
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Follow Up By: Granpa Joe - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 00:32

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 00:32
Look forward to the pics Fleggy, She will look like a new beast!
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