The last of the Nomads

Submitted: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 21:30
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A book by W J Peasley, relating the the story of Warri and Yatungka of the Mandildjara people of the Western Gibson Deserts and how they were the last of the tribe remaining in their own country. During a severe drought in the 1970's fears were held for their safety and an expedition was mounted to see if they were still alive and if they wanted to go to live with their clan people in Wiluna. They were rescued from starvation in 1977.

It is a fascinating read and having been to many of the places written about in the book I related to the country. I am just sorry I did not read it before I went out that way last year.

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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 21:41

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 21:41
Willem ,
I have been told that the guys that organised it , just took him along for the ride , but he got all the credit for doing nothing - because he wrote the book - but I guess we must be thankful to him for that .
Willie .
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 21:54

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 21:54
Willie

I did not get the impression that there was any grandstanding in the book. It is purely a narrative.

Read it and all will be revealed.
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Reply By: Billowaggi - Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 21:44

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 21:44
What a pity that now due to native title issues we are no longer alowed to go anywhere near the route of the Peasly expidition, although I think that the Warri site can still be accesed from the Eagle Hwy.

Regards Ken.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 21:56

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 21:56
Ken

I saw this coming and went out there last year to have a look around. Drove part of the route that they took.

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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 22:16

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 22:16
See Willem ,

Ken calls it the Peasley Expedition , which it was not .

I have not bought the book exactly for that reason .

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Willie .
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 22:28

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 22:28
What a load of bull, Willie

So you refuse to learn something because someone told you this or that for a fact?

You obviously have something against the author of the book. Or you are on the turps again...lol

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Reply By: kimprado - Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 22:00

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 22:00
Willem

I agree with everything you say. We pay little regard to the rich history of this country.Too much hurry and not enough appreciation.

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Kim
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 22:13

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 22:13
Kim

I suppose there is too much politics involved and things do become emotive when it comes to wilderness areas.

On the one hand I have empathy for the indigenous peoples and their plight and on the other hand I feel I must still have some right to go to these places of significance. I grew up in a divisive state and now find the same thing happening in my country of adoption.

How are you getting on with your technology meltdown....LOL

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Follow Up By: kimprado - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 16:36

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 16:36
Willem

Its probably time a Bill of Rights was introduced into our Constitution.

Still having technology problems. Waiting for the paid help to turn up.

How's the Tassie trip planning going?

Regards

Kim
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 19:31

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 19:31
Kim

Not sure about Tassie this year now as SWMBO has an approaching knee operation. Will know by August where we stand.

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Reply By: Member - sparra - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 07:19

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 07:19
g'day willem,

i agree the last of the nomads is a interesting read. have you read bill peasleys other book,"in the hands of providence" all about the david carnegie expedition in 1896?
i went out last year to give bill and his mate a hand to show some italian botanists around the great sandy desert to collect plant species[they had permits].
we done a lot of off-track work,visited stansmores grave on margaret river station,shiddi pool,mount cornish,almost to mt rosumund but scrub got too thick.
also found a rockhole south-east of point massie that carnegie had visited [i think equinox had previously tried to find this on their quad bike trip]. bill had an old photo of carnegie and the camels at the hole and the surroundings still look much the same.
love to get out that way again, cheers sparra.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 18:37

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 18:37
G'day sparra

I think I have read In the Hands of Providence. Went out to Helena Spring in 1994. Carnegie named it 'The Diamond of the Desert', after his sister.. Alas, to me it was just a tea-tree swamp...lol. Still, I dug the well out and birds came in for a drink from every direction after smelling the water.

Maybe I will sneak away this year to the deserts again.

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Follow Up By: Member - vivien C (VIC) - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 19:17

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 19:17
Willem

"maybe I will sneak away this year to the deserts again"

maybe I'll sneak away to the deserts again
big sky country's calling me
under it's blanket I'll lie and dream
in the land of the pintubi
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 19:26

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 19:26
That's nice, Viv

Now you have seriously stirred...lol

I'm off!!!!!!

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Follow Up By: equinox - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 19:43

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 19:43
hi Sparra,

Do you mean the rockhole that is described as near 3 conical hills and a fort-like looking hill? I spend a few hours looking around for that one. I estimated that would be about 39kms at a bearing of around 149 degress from Point Massie.
I reckon its around 21 degress 1 minute south and 121 degress 41 minutes east.
Was I close??

The Forebank Hills are a most isolated feature and I don't think they are all that often visited.

I'll be back out next month looking for a bit of patience :)

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Reply By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 08:26

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 08:26
Yep, great book and a great read.Still wonder if they may have been happier to be left out in THEIR country.
If only everyone loved the land like they did.
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Reply By: slammin - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 14:50

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 14:50
Hi Willem et al, been caught up in the usual humdrum so I have only checked out the site irregularly of late.

Willem hope you are well and the troopy is going strong.

FWIW there is a video available, that he mentions the making of in the book. It is very good and extremely interesting to see particularly after you have read the book.

As for the issues about who's expedition, who cares? If he was along for the ride so what, he was the one to scribe it and from the video etc I haven't seen anywhere as His expedition. From memory "a group of like minded people trying to help out Mudjara."

The other issue about wether they should have been left out "there" is a mere romantic notion. Put yourself in their shoes - death or see family then die. Any normal person would certainly want to see their family, especially considering their dire circumstances and the news that their transgressions were all forgiven.

Another point is that as fearful as Warrie and Yatungka were, they didn't try to stop or get out of the vehicles, they suffered the ride.

I have spoken to people who came "out" from the bush as children and I have put the question to them, all have said they would have chosen family.

A very moving story. Also look for the Kintore Lost Tribe or Pintubi Nine @ 1984,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pintupi_Nine

There is a video, Benny and the Dreamers, CAAMA. I've only seen the last part and I remember the main issue was the Return To Outstations Movement but apparantly the first/main issues are the Lost Tribe.

There are heaps of stories about people still living traditionally in the Western Deserts, personaly as much as people swear that they are eyewitnesses and as vast as the areas are, I think the notion is as romantic as Warrie and Yatungka wanted to be left out "there".

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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 17:41

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 17:41
G'day Slammin

Good to hear you are still around. And thanks for that link. Interesting stuff.

I would have enjoyed being a person walking around the desert and surviving had I been born in another place or era. Now I reckon I would probably last 48 hours out there at most...lol

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Reply By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 16:28

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 16:28
Hi All

Just a question gentlemen, how did the above people end up? did they end up
getting the white mans diseases ect. like a lot of other nomads that were
introduced to our way of life.

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Follow Up By: equinox - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 16:31

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 16:31
I believe they died a couple of years after they were brought back to Wiluna.

Probably a couple of years more than if they were left to die in the drought.

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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 18:26

Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 18:26
They both lived for two years after they were rescued and died of 'old age". Warri was 70 but Yutangka was only 62. She willed herself to die one month after Warri had gone. It would have been only a matter of weeks had they not been found as they were both in a severely emaciated condition due to the drought.

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