Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 10:48
Hi Wayne,
Thought I write to give my perception on all this permit system.
But firstly I just copied a extract from a document from anfwd website titled
Canning Stock route expeditions and public access. You will find this document by going to anfwdc homepage clicking on access update at the
Canning stock route tab.
Quote.
The
Canning Stock Route is a public access easement and does not need a permit to travel its length, provided sites subject of aboriginal native title are not entered. The vast majority of travellers however, after researching its history, plan to visit many special sites both along and off the easement. For most but not all of its length, it is about 8 kilometres wide (5
miles). Moving off the track for camping should be limited to less than two kilometres. The Martu people are very concerned about the protection of their native title rights and interests. Their adjoining lands may not be accessed except with a permit. Unquote.
I had hoped the permit system is to protect aboriginal sacred sites and their history,
Also I was hoping that the revenue generated could have been put back into the stock route in the form of restoration of wells or improving facilities in high usage areas. But maybe there's more to it than meets the eye.
Now, as I read it, this statement has raised a different issue, namely native title rights.
Maybe this permit system is a way of stopping people pegging out a vast area of aboriginal land and then claim it as theirs though , maybe, adverse possession.
Anyways, what i read above is if you stick to the Canning easement ie 8kms or 5miles wide there is no fee to pay. If you want to venture off the track, as we want to do, then you need to get a permit. A bit like driving up a highway and pulling into a caravan park to
camp or museum.
On another matter that raised my interest was somebody mentioned what happens if you were delayed getting to the Canning as your permit has fixed dates.
The below is also a extract from the same document as above.
Quote.
Travellers on the road can utilize facilities at
Wiluna &
Kunawarritji Aboriginal Community (near
Well 33) to access the ANFWDC site and purchase a permit. Printing costs will be payable to the proprietors at these locations before downloading. Unquote.
At
Kunawarritji or
Wiluna you may be able to change your permit dates to suit your needs.
Also Wayne as you are leaving in a couple of weeks, if the permit system is not up and running by then, you can purchase there. As much as you hate it.
I would like to add that the above extract of documents were last updated 12/08/06 so the information could be outdated.
Also Wayne I like to ask you what expected fuel consumptions figures are you using and how much fuel do you intend to carry? And are you going Nth to Sth or vise versa?
Thanks for any information.
Regards
Alan
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 18:26
Thursday, May 10, 2007 at 18:26
Alan,
I have read that extract many times. It is the only information available and as you say it was dated 12/08/06.
Applying for a permit at
Wiluna or
Well 33 is good, but what if I come in from
Newman along the Tallawana track and turn right at
Well 22. How will I get a permit then?
There are a couple of things wrong with the purchase of the permit at
Wiluna or
Well 33. Say I was a tourist coming in from overseas. You arrive at
Well 33 to find out that you know need a permit to go any further and I have already travelled past some of the restricted area. What is going to happen then?
Stepping down from soap box again.
To answer you question,
South to north, I will leave
Wiluna with 280lt of diesel, at
Well 23 taken on 205lt. What will not fit into the tanks will be carried in jerry cans until required.
In the past we have averaged 190lt per vehicle to
Well 23. To date all the vehicles have been diesel and mostly 6cyl turbo.
How much to take is very hard to say, because of the unexpected. Last year we sold 20lt of diesel to a vehicle because he was running out. As it was he did run out 15km short of
Well 33 even after the extra 20lt. I would rather take too much than not enough.
Have a good and safe trip, the CSR is like no other track in Australia.
Wayne
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