HJ47 Ute

Submitted: Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 19:33
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I'm looking at getting a HJ47 Ute, cant seem to figure out what brakes come standard. Does anyone know if the have disc brakes, front & rear? And if not, can front and rear disc brakes be added from another model 40?

I'd also be adding in power steering, but have plans to drop a 12HT in it a bit later (if i can afford it), anything I should keep in mind when puting in the power steering?

If theres anything else I should be looking out for before I buy one please let me know?

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Reply By: Member - Reiner G (QLD) 4124 - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 20:09

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 20:09
I had a HJ47 for over 20 years. Drum brakes front and rear but work very well if set up right. Never had power steering or aircon. Heaps more room for your legs and un-killable.

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Reply By: Member- Tony C - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 20:37

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 20:37
I had an HJ47 bought new in 1981 and had a great run out of it.I kept it for about 10yrs and had no problems with it.At times i wish i still had it,it was just such a good simple and rugged truck.
I'm fairly sure mine had discs front and drums rear.
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Reply By: WA Joe - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 21:15

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 21:15
To put power steering on a 2H engine is not as straight forward as to the petrol 2F as you have to mount a pump and from memory they don't fit inner guard or chassis can't remember now. The steering box is straight forward swap as long as you have the the inner shaft from the vehicle. A 60 series box can be fitted a bit more playing around but you will end up with a lot better steering.
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Reply By: Eric Experience - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 21:53

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 21:53
To buy an early one and fit the mods you want is a lot dearer and not as good for the same price as a later model already done. I have one in the workshop at the moment and can tell you the parts are very expensive. Most have oil pressure problems and a new pump is $1500. Be patient and wait until you find a later one. Even if you have to borrow money it will still work out cheaper.
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 22:46

Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 22:46
The later ones had disc brakes on the front, they all had drums on the rear, twin piston for drum braked front and single piston for disc brake front. 2H diesels never had power steering due to clearance issues between the power steering pump and chassis rail.
You will need the complete power steering setup from a petrol 70 series and you will then have to make mounts for the pump work out the drive belt route. Tie rods and draglinks are different between power steer and non power steer vehicles, thicker/heavier from memory.
A 60 series steering setup will fit with mods but will need plenty of fabrication and possibly engineering approval.
Personally I'd save some more money and pick up a 75 series with everything already fitted.
If fitting a 12HT later you will have to fit a later model transfer case as the early one will die from too much torque. changing the transfer then leads to having to change the rear end to get a hand brake as the 40 series had tailshaft mounted handbrakes and 75's use the rear drums.
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Reply By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Sunday, May 13, 2007 at 02:23

Sunday, May 13, 2007 at 02:23
I'll let you know - I'm getting a 2nd hand power steering unit fitted to my HJ47 - see if it fits and works OK...
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Follow Up By: Tony - Sunday, May 13, 2007 at 08:42

Sunday, May 13, 2007 at 08:42
Scott, I had power steering on my HJ47. It worked great. The only think I had to do was clamp a peice of exhaust tube to the bottom radiator outlet hose, as it rubbed under full flex of the motor. The clearance was only about 6mm.

In hindsight I should have extended the metal outlet from the bottom of the radiator, then fitted the rubber hose. The other hassel was finding the right engine mount to install the pump.
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Reply By: SD - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 22:48

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 22:48
My 47 is 8/84, I wanted one of the last I kept looking for a long time until I got a good one, disc brake front end, dash, no rust, 2h diesel, aircon, 282000km, immaculate for its age, paid $7500 2years ago, top dollar for a 47 but you get what you pay. I fitted power steering 3 months ago, best thing I ever did, totally different vehicle. I'm a diesel mechanic and did the job at home, a pretty straight forward job, Heres the facts on parts etc. BJ42 power steer box, BJ42 steer colum shaft, Early 60series power steer pump, Early 60 series RH engine mount, 60 series oil cooler tube, 60series oil resevoir. 2 pulley from front of 60 series 2H engine. 2002 troopy viscus fan hub. Modify radiator water outlet about 40mm to right, Genuine toyota radiator hoses can still be used. Other than radiator mod and making oil resevoir mounting bracket everything else will bolt straight in neatly. All bits listed were second hand and cost $1800 from wrecker, another say $300 for hose makeup, radiator mod and viscous fan. Wreckers know the demand for the above parts and will charge accordingly, most will put a bit of a kit together. If you do the mod contact me and I will give you the finer points and email you some photos. I'm looking at doing the 12ht, engine about $6000. Cheapest way to do job is buy HJ61 with 12ht, put 12ht into HJ47, put 2H into HJ61 and sell as non turbo HJ61, this way whole job should cost about $4000 instead of $8000, me doing the work. If you get a 47 contact me if I can help with anything.
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Reply By: rich333 - Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 12:59

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 12:59
thanks everyone for your qucik replies. I'll let you know when i get the Ute, because I will need more help.

steve, it sounds you've got a similar interest in the 47's, I'll keep your details and contact you for those photos once i'm ready to go. and great idea with the 12ht, will prob end up doing the same in a few years.

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