GU Overheating
Submitted: Monday, May 14, 2007 at 14:53
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Gregrash
I havea 2000 Nissan TD 42 Ute that is overheating under load (towing)
So far have had radiator cleaned (tanks off & rodded out) , engine flushed, new fan assembly fitted, new lower radiator hose fitted (with internal spring)
Still overheating ANY IDEAS ??
Greg
Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, May 14, 2007 at 15:04
Monday, May 14, 2007 at 15:04
Greg,
I know how you're feeling. My last truck (also a 4.2TD, 2000 model) nearly drove me to drink. That was until I worked out that it doesn't matter if the temp gauge goes up to nearly the "HOT" zone.
If you do a search of the archives you'll find many posts by me from a couple of years ago on this subject.
In the end I fitted a VDO temp gauge, with the sender unit fitted in the top radiator hose. The hottest that ever got to was 118oC. I drove it with that temp showing and the air conditioner on (see below) for about 2 hours at highway speed and with no ill effects.
If you want the temp gauge to drop back down to normal, the short answer is you must reduce your speed and take it a bit easier.
NOTE: Air conditioner will shut off shortly after the temp gauge starts to rise. If you want to avoid this, you can unplug the electrical plug on the passenger's side of the radiator, just below the air cleaner box.
I take no responsibility for any consequences of the foregoing statements...;-))
Cheers
Roachie
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Follow Up By: Ron George - Monday, May 14, 2007 at 15:39
Monday, May 14, 2007 at 15:39
Greg, Roachie makes a very valid point, & I should have mentioned it in my previous post, (must have had "Junior moment") before you do any thing else fit a good quality temp gauge to find out where you`re really at temp wise other wise you might be chasing your tail. Cheers Ron.
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Follow Up By: Gregrash - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 10:49
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 10:49
Thanks for the help guys
Problem found - water pump impellor worn down to resemble a lid off a tin can
can,t believe it wasn't running hotter
Greg
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Reply By: Ron George - Monday, May 14, 2007 at 15:18
Monday, May 14, 2007 at 15:18
Greg, when you say new fan assembly I take it you mean the viscous coupling????
These problems are a process of elimination & you`ve covered most, next I would
test the thermostat, failing that throw a new one at it, making sure you have the right temp rating for your motor, if you`re still experiencing probs, I`d be looking at the water pump, there could be excessive impeller clearance, the vanes on the impeller could be a bit worn, or, & it can happen, the impeller may have come loose on the drive shaft... Good luck mate. Cheers Ron.
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Reply By: Steve T - Monday, May 14, 2007 at 22:55
Monday, May 14, 2007 at 22:55
Check that the RadiatorThermo Fan relay hasn't been taken or stolen, I finally tracked it down as I had the same problems as everyone else. After getting hot on
Stockton Beach I had time to ponder while it cooled down, I thought to myself I have never heard the Thermo Fan cut it and wondering how bloody hot does it have to get before it does. So I followed the circuit thinking the fan motor may not be working, I lift the relay box cover and to my shock find the relay missing. I swapped it for another relay (CORN LAMP) and whammo the fan kicks in, the temp drops almost straight away. I flogged it for the rest of the day and on the way
home up the big hills with the a/c on and the needle didn't move. So next day go to Nissan to get a new one, $137rrp, I almost fell over. So I guess some one else went to Nissan to get a relay, found out the price, saw our "soon to be" Patrol in the Yard for sale, take it for a drive, take the relay, and save $137. Why else would it be missing, surely the previous owner would have replaced a faulty relay and not have the over heating problems. Since the relay was installed the temp hasn't moved, except when towing the camper trailer up the big long hills under load, but when it does warm up it is only slightly and takes alot longer to move. By the way it is a 98 GU Patrol 4.2 with DTS turbo. I hope this helps someone and is not the answer to the overheating problem, just one part of the puzzle. Steve
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, May 14, 2007 at 23:23
Monday, May 14, 2007 at 23:23
But the 4.2 doesn't have a "thermo fan" AFAIK...... Just the viscous hub (mechanical, not electrical) and the air conditioner fan.....which does cut in if temp gets to a certain level. Is this what you are referring to?
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Follow Up By: Steve T - Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 17:27
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 17:27
Look on the relay cover "Rad Fan", yes the a/c one, it's all part of the cooling system. Steve
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