LCD TFT Dash Monitor VGA-AV plugs etc...

Submitted: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 15:49
ThreadID: 45756 Views:2429 Replies:8 FollowUps:7
This Thread has been Archived
Is there any where in Perth that you can see a fairly complete range of dashboard mount monitors 7 or 8" or do they all simply sell one specific line and buyer beware?

Also how much truth lies in the fact that mapping should be plugged in via a VGA connector from the laptop to achieve good detail rather than a normal AV type?
Back Expand Un-Read 0 Moderator

Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 16:22

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 16:22
John
Q1
Geez you sure know to ask a stumper, Harvey Norman , maybe Terlins , Uniden GNS8600 for Australia www.ja-gps.com.au/uniden_gns86001.htm has a very good sized monitor/GPS. The last time I was in Olbis at Rocklea Qld they had a good range , they do internet sales www.olbis.com.au/
The Garmin StreetPilot 7200 Site Link has a large screen, and then there is the beauty advertised on EO The NavNet www.navnet.org.au/

Q2
if it works , then keep going with it.
gift by Daughter

Lifetime Member
My Profile  My Blog  Send Message

AnswerID: 241607

Follow Up By: Member - John L G - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 16:41

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 16:41
Doug,
I try, to ask stumpers that is.
I haver been procrastinating for years on this and have set the lappy up on a chart table in the back and simply get out, pat the dog, have a look and a cup of tea (read beer) and then meander on through the bush as the mood takes me. I thought having the display up front like the rest of the EO mob may prove a novelty and actually be a tad more efficient.

My biggest concern is are the dash top mounts up to supporting the monitors, regardless of brand, when bashing around the bush or on corrugations. 75 series are not noted for limouusine ride qualities ans seen many devices shaken to oblivion over the years whilst the truck sails merrily along.

I will give those sites a go but am one of those that likes to handle the mercahndise beforer buying.

A bit like some other aspects of ones life.

Thanks for the input
0
FollowupID: 502524

Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 17:34

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 17:34
John
I am enjoying this chat, fair Dinkum, If it's the dash your worried about it won't break , made of steel, and these Mounts are designed for the purpose you want , check out the website

www.ja-gps.com.au/ram-mount3.html



Doug
gift by Daughter

Lifetime Member
My Profile  My Blog  Send Message

AnswerID: 241618

Follow Up By: Member - John L G - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:01

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:01
Doug,

No, the dash isn't the problem and being a fellow 75 sufferer, you well know, the 75 is pretty short on finesse but long on corrugated chattering teeth and plates of metal to hang things off.
I intended to leave the lappy churning away in the back and provide a feed to a dash mounted TFT LCD monitor but when you look at the Lilliput's etc, they all seem to have plastic stands and being a bit of a sceptic am a bit distrustful of their durablity.

I have seen the MLR GPS stand self destruct twice now, in a spectular plastic exploding sort of way on corrugations so wonder about the strains put on a stand by a heavier monitor on the dash.

Mounts, as shown above, look the goods but space ever a problem and perhaps I should consider relocating the steering wheel to the rear cab as all the electornic c#$p in the front takes over.

The robust type monitors used in truck cabs for their reversing cameras seem ideal however none have VGA inputs for the copmputer input and I keep being told that VGA is a must for max resolution in mapping.

It's all a techno mystery to me but as I will be in Perth in a couple of weeks, i'm now on a mission. One more month here and I'm heading East for a wander thru the desert.
0
FollowupID: 502555

Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:18

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:18
John
Not sure what that RAM Mount is made of but they are made for 4x4ing etc, but if you want something strong then as I would do is get my little welder out and make one , and if people told me 1/2 inck tubing will do the job then the old brain starts ticking and off I go and make it with 1 inch or 1/2 inch but double the thickness , anyhow if you have a look at the one Willem made you will get an idea , there is talk about it at PostID: 45759
gift by Daughter

Lifetime Member
My Profile  My Blog  Send Message

AnswerID: 241632

Reply By: Pomgonewalkabout - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:24

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:24
The single RCA type plug and socket is a composite? video signal. Whereas the VGA has seperate leads for each colour RGB and seperate sync signal.
Each lead has it's own screen (earth connection) less noise and sharper image is the end result. Less roll off at the high frequencies, which means sharper resolution for your maps.

Of course I stand corrected

cheers
AnswerID: 241634

Follow Up By: Member - John L G - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:29

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 18:29
Socks & Sandals aka Pomgoneover the hill
That is the first time it has been explained to me in a sensible and intelligent manner which actually makes sense rather than the mumbled techno speak of the computer geek.

Thank you for that - very much appreciated
Regards
0
FollowupID: 502565

Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 19:15

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 19:15
Hi John,
About a year ago, I hooked a computer up to my 7inch indash screen using a VGA to composite video converter. The resolution was not good. And I then used a TabletPC until I broke it.

But last month, I revisited the idea - I got hold of an old Tosh laptop that had a yellow RCA socket (composite video out) that hooked directly to the screen - its now quite acceptable. We used it for the first time last week in the GVD, and having the mapping on a screen that popped out just above the stereo was very, very nice. The resolution was good enough for both the Auslig and Hema to be very readable. I wondered whether the screen would shake off with the corrugations, but it was fine - just needed a velcro strip to stop it from flopping down.

I would suspect that with the recent screens, a direct VGA or composite video connection will suit your needs.

Cheers
phil

Cheers
phil
AnswerID: 241653

Follow Up By: Member - John L G - Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 10:43

Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 10:43
Hi Phil

I remember your previous posts and experience with the jaycar in dash screen and your attempt to hook the lappy up to it a year or so back and was one of the reasons I have been pretty hesitant about not using the right hardware for the job.

What you describe makes sense and as I have an old Tosh, which has proved pretty much indestructible, I am wanting to use that. This is mounted permanently in the vehicle and is set up for mapping, web photos etc but has no composite output you speak of.

It would seem best solution is to get the right screen compatible to the Tosh and manufacture my own dash mount bracket.

Regards
JG
0
FollowupID: 502758

Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 18:23

Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 18:23
John,
Just took a few photos which have been reduced, but give you an idea of what its like:

!MPG:35!

!MPG:34!

!MPG:33!

Cheers
Phil
0
FollowupID: 502862

Reply By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 19:24

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 19:24
G'day John,

I like your description of a 75 series troopy's gentle ways when the going is rough! You really get the feel of the road when it's corrugated, and so does everything in the vehicle. For this reason we have NOT gone for a rigid mount for the screen.

A few words about screens: Your laptop probably provides a 1024x768 image, that is 1024 pixels wide, 768 high. You should be able to plug in an extension screen, but to get the best from it, that screen's resolution should match the resolution of the laptop. VGA is 640x480. Most VGA screens will be smart enough to do the conversion from 1024x768, but it will not be as good as the original laptop picture. Better to look for a 1024x768 screen, often called XGA. Another very useful feature available on some of them is the touchscreen - this takes the place of the mouse - easier to use than a mouse and one less thing you have to carry. Some have other options such as having both a VGA input and a video input which could be used with a reversing camera. Others include a TV tuner.

Mounting - We use a 9" touchscreen. Our troopy has on top of the dash a plinth to carry the fuel gauge for the second tank. Our screen is suspended in a sling - a closed loop of strong material about 6" wide, which goes from the bottom of the screen, passes under the plinth, up the back (windscreen side)of it , over the top and onto the top of the screen. The screen is free to jump up and down a few inches, though it rarely does. The standard screen mounting has been discarded - far to frail for a troopy - and the screen itself is mounted in a cloth satchel which is attached to the sling with velcro. This system has survived some pretty horrible bumps and corrugations. The only downside is that the screen hangs in front of the second fuel gauge and the radio. Hardly a problem since the mounting is so flexible and the screen can be lifted out of the way when necessary.

A picture would be worth at least 1000 words, if you're interested I'll see if I can get one and post it here.

HTH

John
J and V
"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted."
- Albert Einstein

Lifetime Member
My Profile  My Blog  Send Message

AnswerID: 241656

Follow Up By: Member - John L G - Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 11:07

Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 11:07
Good Morning John

Being a fellow 75 sufferer, you have obviously learnt to love and hate the various constraints put upon your person by this amazing piece of engineering.
Germany had the VW and Japan has the 75 series, need I say more.

My dash is free of the fuel pod and currently has a Codan HF remote in front of the passenger, GPS next to that and a small reversing monitor in the centre. The plan was to relocate the reversing monitor over the instrument cowl and place a real monitor in the centre. The bigger the better obviously as eyesight is always an issue these days with dusty glasses in the bush.

Your statement of the standard mounting being too frail, is what I suspected and your well described solution is a lateral approach and probably not so silly when you consider minimising impacts to the monitor so I may have a play with this over the weekend and see how it goes.

As for your choice of monitor, which brand/model did you decide on and did you buy that locally or wait for it by the letter box from HK?

Regards

JG
0
FollowupID: 502764

Reply By: howie - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 19:25

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 19:25
i went thru this about 10 months ago in perth and could not find many on display.
things might have changed but strathfield hi-fi and alberts stereo do some stuff.
you really should use vga for a screen, not all tft have a vga input.
i was contemplating changing my 2-din cd player for a 1-din cd player and a 1-din motorised tft with vga.
unfortunately the other half saw the quote.
there was some tft's on the net (from hong kong etc) if you are game.
one more powerball.
AnswerID: 241657

Follow Up By: Member - John L G - Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 11:08

Wednesday, May 23, 2007 at 11:08
Howie

Sounds like my quandary exactly........including the said powerball
0
FollowupID: 502765

Reply By: Sarg - Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 22:07

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 22:07
Noticed a few at Jaycar the other day while looking for something else. Didn't take much notice of the brands or what sort of setup they got tho. Might be worth a look.
AnswerID: 241724

Sponsored Links

Popular Products (9)