Previously unanswered queries...

Submitted: Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 15:54
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Hi guys,

Had responses to several posts, but never really ended up with the definitive answers (of course there may not be any definitive answers). I'd like try asking again. We're talking about a 2004 diesel (no turbo) 78 Troopy.

Post 54305:
Running a CF/40 Waeco in bag in back of Troopy (maybe 2m run of cable), what size cabling should I be using? Assume fuse etc all catered for.

Post 45019:
What temperature setting is best on a CF/40 Waeco Fridge/Freezer in a Waeco bag when stowing frozen stuff in bottom (maybe 200mm high) with fridge stuff on top? I’m using a sheet of “corflute sign material” between frozen/fridge areas, (as advised).

Post 46021:
Trying to understand how Troopy engine immobiliser works. Page 106 under heading "Engine Immobiliser", Gregory manual says:
"The engine immobiliser disables the fuel cut solenoid when the ignition key is removed from the ignition lock, preventing the vehicle being started. At this stage, a warning lamp in the instrument cluster will flash once every two seconds, indicating the system is armed.
When the correct key is inserted in the ignition switch, the transponder microchip in the key will transmit an electronic code to the theft deterrent ECU via the key reader surrounding the ignition lock assembly. If the correct signal is received, the security warning lamp on the dashboard will stop flashing, indicating that the engine immobiliser is disarmed and the vehicle will start."
Problem is mine doesn't. Can't find any "immobilisation flasher" in the dash, doesn't have any microchip in the key (can use "all metal" spare key). Anyone know what's the going on? Where/how can I get to understand?

Thanks to all in advance.
Rumbler.

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Reply By: Member - Dick (Int) - Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 16:11

Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 16:11
I own a 79 Series Trayback so I am interested in the answers you get on the above.

When are you heading off to the UK? You should have a great trip and you have the ideal vehicle to do it.

Dick in
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Follow Up By: Rumbler - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 11:54

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 11:54
Dick
Planning on leaving Jan '08. Hoping to travel with the weather & avoid wet/cold weather as much as possible.
Route will take us up Malaysia, thru Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, China & thru the Stans to Iran & SE Europe.
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Reply By: CraigB - Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 16:28

Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 16:28
Hi Rumbler,
6mm wiring will be fine.
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Follow Up By: Rumbler - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 11:55

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 11:55
Craig
Thanks.
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Reply By: kcandco - Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 18:49

Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 18:49
Hi Rumbler

with regard to cable size I found the info in the following article by Collyn Rivers very helpful. It actually has a formula for working this out. the web page is

www.campertrailers.org/collyns_page.htm

Look at the heading "A Better Way"

Every other article I have ever read.... and there have been plenty of them have never given a formula for calculating voltage drop over a given distance at a specified amperage. Hope this helps.

regards Kc
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Follow Up By: Rumbler - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:00

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:00
Thanks KC

Great, just the kind of info I was looking for.
Cheers, Rumbler
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 19:37

Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 19:37
Your troopie doesn't have an immobiliser. Its just got a straight steel key - not the fat black key with the immobiliser chip. The manuals also cover the 100series and they do have an immobiliser.
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Follow Up By: Rumbler - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:04

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:04
Ah! Thanks Phil

I was so confused. I couldn't find any sigh of the device mentioned on the truck anyway.
Any suggestion on how to implement an engine immobiliser anyway?

Regards, Rumbler
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 20:26

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 20:26
Rumbler,
I've not bothered with an immobiliser. But theres plenty of companies that deal with that stuff - they are pretty cheap. I would expect that anyone like Autobahn, Strathfields, Cartronics etc could do it for you.
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Reply By: Member - 'Lucy' - Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 21:12

Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 21:12
I have an upright waeco 50l fridge at the rear most corner of my Troopy. It has its own dedicated 6mm cable with a circuit breaker off of the Deep cycle.

Installed by professional 4WD crew and never had a problem with same over the past 6 years.
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Follow Up By: Rumbler - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:06

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:06
Thanks "Lucy"

I got a bit confused with previous follow-ups, but I think I'm alright with what I've done.

Regards Rumbler
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:12

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:12
I can answer the first question for you.
I run a Waeco CF/30 in the back of a Troopy, I have a cable as thick as BIC Biro running from the No 2 battery which is an Optima Deep Cycle, it terminates just behind the Left seat under the front sliding window, from there I have just an ordinary 12v wire 10amp running to the right side of the roof console , right over as far right as I could to a switch, then back to a cig lighter socket behind the Left seat under the front sliding window, from there to the fridge is the Waeco supplied power cable, It works like dream, I have to be careful not to turn it up to much as it will freeze everything , Now I know I will get asked why the switch, I can turn off the fridge from the driving position when the fridge creates RFI during radio skeds, very simple, very easy, and it works,
For Q 2 Try trial and error , I did then you get to know how your fridge works,
and for Q 1 part two, everyone is arguing about if Waeco is better than Engel etc and etc rather than read your post and answer the question put forward,

As for the Engine Immobiliser I would suggest asking an Auto Electrician of which I'm not, though I do all my own wiring also of which works.

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Follow Up By: Rumbler - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:13

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:13
Thanks Doug

From reading everything I can & everything everyone has said, I think I'm okay now.
It can be frustrating when well-meaning people ignore the question & discuss other stuff. I take what I can get, use what is appropriate & politely ignore the rest. I've always some interest in reading whatever EO guys say about anything, it's always something that helps enlighten/educate.

Regards, Rumbler
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Reply By: Member - 'Lucy' - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:41

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:41
Troopy Engine Immobiliser.

I have queried this and been told that on my model (1997 - no computer management) there is an after market kit available which works the same way as a turbo timer does.

Does something to the edectic (spelling) motor on the fuel pump.

Thats as much as I know so don't ask me to elaborate further as I have never followed up on it.

If you have an electronic fuel pump then I bet there is some similar type of widget thingy that does the same.
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Follow Up By: Rumbler - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:48

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:48
Thanks "Lucy"

I'll do a bit more reading & see if I can come up with some simple "hidden" switch that when I walk away from the vehicle I can disable the ignition/fuel system or whatever. Can't be that hard.

Regards, Rumbler
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