Grey Water Filter????

Submitted: Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 22:11
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Is there a system to filtrate grey water for reuse for a shower or perhaps dishes etc.

Could this system be used in a C/T on a extended trip.

I'm planning a huge trip were water could be scarce, so recycled water could be useful.

Cheers Steve.
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Reply By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 22:42

Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 22:42
Boil it and catch the steam......

maybe.....

have you got a sat phone for the flying doctor ?
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 09:41

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 09:41
>Boil it and catch the steam......<

AND add some grapes....Makes good Moonshine.....LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:52

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:52
You two a sick, sick dudes (ROFLMAO)
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Reply By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 22:55

Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 22:55
Gday Steve

Haven't done the search myself, but the new inventors on the ABC had a water special wednesday and it had a couple of grey water filters. Hang on, I've got an idea........watch this space......could make me a bit of cash.......

Maybe a reverse osmosis set up from a small trailerboat could be used....for now, I'll just have to work on the idea I just had, maybe your tour company could test the prototype......

Cheers Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 23:12

Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 23:12
Just remembered a bloke on the same ABC show a while back had a small solar evaporative filter, once again haven't searched, (looking at boats......)
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Reply By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 23:07

Thursday, May 31, 2007 at 23:07
I know a bloke who is working on a proto type unit initially for houseboats, to return grey water to the river.
He came to a camp of ours a few months back and all the camp washup water etc was poured into a bucket with his invention in it, and came out in drinkable condition.
The unit was small and the largest part was the 20L bucket.
So when its up and runnning i will post it.
It maybe a while though as red tape is loooooong !

Cheers pesty
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:54

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:54
Hot damn!

Found a use for the Fitch finally.

A hyclone or two in there also, maybe.
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Follow Up By: Scoof - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:29

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:29
Hello Pesty,

I read in our local paper the EPA were checking houseboats along the River from The Vic border to Renmark for their waste water systems and holding tanks.I just wonder if any didn't comply.

This system you talk about would be great for a houseboats.

He would sell them by the truck load if the EPA inforced that the water (shower, kitcchen sink) had to be treated before being returned to the River. What a great idea. Love to hear more..

Regards Scoof.. :-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:45

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:45
Hi Scoof,
The system he had was run off 12v and required very little power, some kind of electolasis (spelling) system.
The problems they are having is getting it aproved, as the guidelines for returning waste water to the river is that it has to be better than spring water !!, so you can imagine how it compares to the water already in the river.

Cheers Pesty
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Follow Up By: Scoof - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:58

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 17:58
Thanks for your reply, not only the quality of the River the water that is going into the river after cleaning dishers and washing everybody's back side.

You would think any improvement would be a bonus.

Any idea what it would be worth if he got approval.

Cheers Scoof.. :-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 18:24

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 18:24
I dont think even now that you are allowed to return water to the river, its all held in holding tanks, but the issue is the volume that has to be stored until it can be emptied.
I will see how its all going and report back if going well, have no idea of costs.

Cheers pesty
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Follow Up By: Member - jeff M (SA) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 20:02

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 20:02
Pesty , at the moment just about every houseboat returns all shower, sink,dishwasher,bath water into the River believe it or not. :-(

Only toilet water and human waste is stored and emptied at the waste stations.

I own a houseboat and comply with all EPA regulations I have to have it on the slipway every 2 years for a out of water inspection by the Marine and Harbours..
Marine and Harbours also inspect the waste system.

But if you choose to not have your boat in survey then no checks are made by any Gov. Dept at all normally..

That is why I liked the spot check just done by the EPA.

Regards Scoof.. :-)
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Reply By: Gerhardp1 - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 00:04

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 00:04
I did a google recently on "how does desalination work", and found an Ozzie crowd that makes portable desalination plants.

There was no info on cost on their website, but they also treat grey water with their devices, including shower etc water, salty/dirty bore water.

They may be worht following up - I can't remember their name but it stood out on the google search.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 08:08

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 08:08
The power requirements may be a bit too much for an extended Trip with CT..... forcing greywater through a membrane under pressure is taxing on the power. I would have a guess that their systems are predominantely 240v, though i have been known to be wrong on the odd occasion ;-)

Would be interesting to see how much treatable water they recover (%).....

Andrew
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 07:36

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 07:36
Hi Steve:

It may pay to look at what these ceramic filters can produce. I first heard about them for use in swimming pools and it was capable of filtering out all sorts of little nasties. Bit expensive, but I remember thinking it may have some worthwile application in the area you are thinking of. Sorry .. no links I can provide.

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Reply By: Willem - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 09:45

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 09:45
Steve

Eat tinned food out of the tins and wipe your fork/spoon on a cloth.

Keep all water for drinking and maybe wet a rag for a sponge off when yer get on the nose....lol

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:22

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:22
Of coarse Willem, I now remember reading that in a book some were.

Now what was it called, Ahh that's right it was called Too Long In The Bush.

This is a family trip with a lot of remote areas involved, I plan on carrying a lot of water and fuel and could be self sufficient with food for at least 2 weeks.

It was just a thought, With today's technology I thought a small water recycle unit could be possible.

Oh well I'll just put another tin of water on the roof Lol.

Cheers Steve.

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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:52

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:52
Gday Steve

I found a good alternative for me on family trips was a flexible watertank that stretches across the floor of the back seat. It claims to be 125 litres, I reakon I get about 70 or so in it where it is in the car. It works well for us as the kids are small and don't miss the legroom. Keeps the weight low and centered as well.....maybe not the best option if the rear seat passengers require the legroom.

Cheers Andrew
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Reply By: Member - 'Lucy' - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:10

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:10
If you people have been reading the news of late and keeping up with events re water shortages, you will/would have seen this very subject done to death on a commercial basis.

Excluding the sewerage side of things for the purpose of this debate, to return grey water to potable water (human use - not necessarily consumption) requires a lot of (1) energy (2) infrastructure, (3) delivery/storage capacity, health compatability & (5) $ cost.

At this stage the governments are going to implement this on a limited basis where all of the above 5 elements can be met efficiently and effectively.

Now once you work out how you can combine and reduce the above 5 elements into a 4WD in an efficient and effective manner with no OH&S issues then you may be onto something.

Until you do, the only kit of this type is flying in space and beyond everyone on terra firma's bank balance.

Best of British Luck with your quest though
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Reply By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 20:11

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 20:11
Thanks for your replies.

One of you guys spoke with a guy called Mike who called today and told me the ins and outs of what I was asking.

To technical to repeat but for about $2000 you could fit something that could do about 2000 lts, so will consider this option.

Thanks again Steve.
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