Electric Brakes adjsutment - Coromal-
Submitted: Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 18:58
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Member - SKI er (NSW)
Hi Folks..
Electric drum brake ajustment on a Coromal 512
What do I self do... or should I pay the The $140 asked for a brake adjustment.
Parked on a slight
hill in a Cp.. put the handbrake on disconnected/jocketed up and moved the towey forward and the van followed ..... whilst disconnected.
Also the electric brakes don't seem to work as
well as 7000 km ago from new.
We are
home now... no time restraints....any number of tools... reasonably mechanical proficient.. but this is a first time ..can I do these myself handbrake and drum breaks... how.. or do I keep paying the piper forever and a day.
Regards
SKI'er
Reply By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 19:36
Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 19:36
Mate!
I would suggest that if you don't have the confidence to attack the job head on then perhaps you should seriously look at having a professional do the job for you.
Pay the man and make sure you have a receipt/invoice.
I have over the years I was in the brake/clutch game played with all brake systems but do confess to being light on with caravan experience.
Anecdotal evidence suggests that electric brakes have their own peculiararities like other systems. I'm given to understand that electric brakes need to backed off much further than traditional hydraulic systems. Without experimenting I don't know just how far. Are you prepared to experiment with your braking system?
Ian
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Follow Up By: Member - SKI er (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 22:10
Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 22:10
Member Ian,
What a dumb **** reply. "Being light on in caravan expenience"... Then keep quiet !
I rember when I couldn't swim... if I adopted your philosophy I would have leared the basics and have gone onto diving on oil rigs in the North Sea then emigarted and switched to teaching Industrialarts for 30 years. Repeat. this is the first time I have done this and there are no instruction booklets...
Have a good look at yourself and
check out the positive respones.. Half glass empty or half full ?
SKI'er
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Reply By: barney rubble - Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 20:05
Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 20:05
Gday skier the brakes on my coromal 93 are just like the old style drum brakes as far as adjustment goes just jack up van safely of course remove grommet from backing plate and adjust until wheel locks tight then back off until wheel spins reasonably free ussually 3 to 4 turns
but as per previous post if in doubt pay the man whilst $140 sound expensive what price are ya worth hope this helps Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - SKI er (NSW) - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:09
Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:09
Thanks barney rubble,
Thanks for your guidance... I began at 8 and was finished by 9 this morning.
Just like the old VW brakes but not quite as easy to get to.
I have to comment that what I did in an hour - next time quicker still - was not what I would expect could be justified from a $140 quote.
Regards
SKI'er
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Reply By: rolande- Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 20:17
Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 20:17
G'Day Ski er,
I just had a quote of $185 to do a "service" to our Coromal. Involved brake clean and adjust as
well as bearings, hinges, etc, etc.
Would think $140 for just the brakes a bit steep,
Hope this helps
Rolande
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Reply By: Gronk - Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 21:41
Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 21:41
If you can change a light bulb, you can adjust your brakes !!!
As Barney said, pulloff the grommet and have a play with a screwdriver until you are sure you have the adjusting ratchet and adjust it up until the wheel goes stiff !!!! Then adjust off until it runs free....easy as !! Finished !!!
And if you are still not sure about it ....do it again for practice !! Sure beats paying someone $140 and it also gives you a bit of satisfaction knowing that YOU did it !!
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Follow Up By: Member - SKI er (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 22:18
Sunday, Jun 03, 2007 at 22:18
Thanks mate,
Tomorrow I am out with a screwdriver and a hope.
Thanks for the positives ....I am amazed at first response by Member Ian.. "If you haven't the confidence then go with the established route"....pay the piper... that way the only person who gains in confidence and the skills is the piper.... maybe Member Ian joined the wrong site and should relearn what Australia was built on " Do you tie it up with wire, just to keep the show on the road? Hey.. True Blue.
Regards
SKI'er
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 09:12
Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 09:12
Skier,
It's most obvious my post was not what you wanted to hear. It was an opnion, a suggestion, no malice or put down intended.
I'm disappointed you did not see it in the manner it was intended.
Ian
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Reply By: Member - R Send - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 09:16
Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 09:16
SKI er,
Why ask the question in the first place if you were going to have a spray at some of the respondees?
Whilst you may not appreciate some of the comments received, perhaps you should just keep quiet about the 'negative' ones and work with the ones that you are happy with.
Or maybe go back to North Sea diving. Your own aggressive response suggests you spent too much time on the bottom whilst you were there!
Anyway good luck with acquiring your new skills!
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Follow Up By: Member - SKI er (NSW) - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 09:36
Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 09:36
Rsend, (Good name)
The point is skills are learned and confidence is gained from successfully employing them.
It is now 9.30am. On the strength of Barney Rubbles post I began at 8am, jack at hand screwdriver at the ready. I found the grommet and took up the brakes. As Barney said just like the old drum brakes on the VW's the kids and I used to restore in the scchool's metal workshop.
The whole job took less than an hour and wasn't worth the $140 quoted nor did it need much engineering expertise to perform the job.
You know next time I won't have to ask "how to". Knowledge in humans is not innate it is learned. Also I have the confidence to do it again next time.
By the way it scimping on the recompression stops that got you not bottom times.
SKI'er
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Follow Up By: Member - R Send - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 20:19
Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 20:19
Ski'er - not sure what the "(Good name)" insert meant!
"The point is" that someone offered you their opinion about something that you had enquired about. I am sure that you have opinions about things that others may not wish to hear! There was no need for the response that you provided.
Anyway I'm glad to see that you are actually a reasonable human being after all!
I entirely support your suppositions above and , as you say, next time you won't have to ask.
Keep up the good work (and try to keep your future comments positive, whatever you might be thinking!)
R Send
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Reply By: paul.as - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:05
Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:05
SKI er,
Check out this link.
Site Link
Not exactly your problem, but it may help. It will certainly give you the info about how these things work, which is always good to know if something goes wrong and you have to fix it.
Paul
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Follow Up By: Member - SKI er (NSW) - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:50
Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:50
Thanks Paul,
I did the deed had just closed down he tread with a general thank you when your site link came in. I did a general search on the sites onboard search engine.
Electric brakes on an RV featured as a USA TV DIY show that went to air on June 2 2007,
Obviously I missed the show but they back it up with a
Gregory's car manual type of step by step how to and inlcude photos of what to expect. You probably know all this which is why you passed on the link.
IMHO you could do an immense service to the EO folks by announcing the site, to a wider audience, in a specific post about its existance.
Thanks again
SKI'er.
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Reply By: Member - SKI er (NSW) - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:17
Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:17
Thanks All who replied especially Gronk & Barney,
After some basic guidance, job done inside an hour.
If I can do it in that time on my first attempt with basic basic tools ...the caravan place should be able to do it in half that time.... beats me how they could justify a quote of $140. don't wonder they want you to leave it with them and then call back later in th day.... if you could remain as the fly on the wall you would never go back
Thanks again
SKI'er
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:58
Monday, Jun 04, 2007 at 10:58
SKI'er,
Your hand brake is another small challenge as they are usually not very good on vans because of the notching part on the hitch. There is an adjustment just behind where the cable attaches to the lever system usually a small wheel. This is where you can adjust the hand brake. Adjust it so that the brake is fully on about the second last notch on the lever. This way the cable will not engage the brakes when the
suspension works. This is really important when there is an independant
suspension.
Regards Dodg.
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