Dare I ask, rifle question

>Dare I ask

You, sure as hell may!

Some of us still have the logic to believe firearms are not the work of the devil....

However... I cannot answer your question... sorry.... :)

Mike Harding

kimprado,
a great proportion of the newer rifles dont come with sights, and as such encourage you to telescopic sights.
Best bet is get in contact with your nearest gun shop and ask what's available.
There will be plenty of the older open sighted one's available second hand ranging from $100 ish up to "how much did sir wish to spend".
happy hunting

G'day Kim,
Have a look around for a BRNO model 2. Excellent little rifle, 5 shot mag, will last forever.

You can chuck a scope on it when/if you get sick of the open sights.
Ask at your local gunshop, they may have one

Here, here for the BRNO 2E love mine.........

I had a Brno model 2 many years ago when I did a bit of shooting and it was a nice little rifle but if it's target shooting you want to do I would be looking at a second hand Anschutz if you can find one.
I say if you can find one seriously, because those that have them hang on to them forever.
Regards Andrew.

I concur, BRNO No.2 is just one of those 'right' designs. Arguably a classic. There are some excellent earlier examples around that were made prior to the huge factory fire in the 1960's that are pure gold but most pople know what they have and charge accordingly. The Shooters Journal has advertisements for the new ones in most issues so you can see what the look like.

As well as the Model 2, I also own a BRNO in .308W and CZ75B 9mm handgun for good measure. The Czech's sure know how to manufacture superb firearms IMO.

For fun plinking you simply can't go past the Taurus Model 62 pump action carbine. 12 shots, stainless steel, lightning fast pump design, lovely hand finished walnut stock and under $500. Be aware that a scope is not practical on these seeing as they have a 'top eject' action. They are a replica of the famous Winchester gallery gun but made with modern steel, manufacturing techniques and safety features. The other brillant feature is they are a quick takedown design so with the turn of gnurled screw they split in half making for a tiny package. A mate of mine chucks his the glovebox of his F250 it's that convenient. They are great fun and a perfect camp gun for inexpensive plinking. The ergonomics lend themselves well to smaller shooters well means everyone can have a go too.

Whatever you choose, don't forget to range test different ammo too. Each gun likes a different brand and you will find a 'sweet' combination with a bit of patience that will give you a life time of accurate and fun shooting.

Good luck!

Many years ago we used to provide our meat with a .22 Browning pump action.

This was quite a long rifle with no scope mount at all, and very accurate. Dad wouldn't accept a rabbit for food unless it was a head shot, and the rifle made it relatively easy.

My mum handed it in to Johnny Howard fearing they would find it in her locked cabinet.

What a bummer - my fondest memento of my dad gone.

Kim,

I'd agree with the Anschultz, although you're right with the $$$. Another rifle that is pretty good quality is the Rugers - very accurate once you sus out the right ammo it likes.

I've got a few c/o- Mr Howard and Mr Bracks after handing in the semi-autos and handguns....Few other toys with the money too....

What is meant by the term MOA?

Quite like my little CZ actually, though that is lonely on this page. Haven't used the others mentioned as a rifle is just a tool here, as was the semi auto before......

Hi Kim

With the low cost of scopes , all of mine have had them for a long time now and the really do assist (me!) , I can also reccomend the 5 shot bolt action Brno. We recently tried out two , mine with scope and brothers new one without scope and with scope he was able to hit a coke can 2 out of 3 shots at 160 meters which is well beyond range I would use one at. With the open sites hit rate was 1 in 5 which I guess just shows value of same.

Prefer my winchester action 11 shot 22 magnum though as a rifle as the extra power is great on foxes and the increasing number of rabbits at ramge. The lever action is also less likely to be moved when riding bikes/horses.

Robin Miller

Depends what you are going to do with it. If it is target then it will need either apature or a scope anyway. You can't practice with open sites, be there done that and it is a waste of time. If you are looking second hand you can get a good BRNO or SAKO. The SAKO will require a scope but you see the heavy barrel version for $300 - 400 at times. Off a bench my SAKO does a group < 1" at 100 yards. Seat and post I can consistantly shoot 1 1/2" groups. The ammo is more important anyway. Either Fedral Ultra Match or RWS R100 (I think it is) bring my groups at 100 yards from 2" to 1" off the bench.

Steve

G'day Kim
Good to see that there are a few of us like minded people on this forum.
Mate I can't offer much in the way of a direct answer because my .22 is a lowly Stirling (which incidentally has served me well for many moons).
You may like to post your question on the forum on this site www.australianhunting.net - being dedicated to firearms you may well get a few more suggestions.
Cheers from the Moose

Kimprado,
Although i have a CZ (Brno) a cheaper alternative might be a 2nd hand Norinco JW15 a copy of the CZ made about 15 yrs ago & most shot very well for a cheapie rifle........ be surprized if they were anymore than $150 for a good one if you can find one..... I paid $133 new for one in about 1988...... & it was as accurate as a mates model 1 BRNO although not as pretty.......

Cheers

I have a lovely old Mauser .22 with open sights. I wonder if they still make them.

I take it up to the Flinders every now and then and practise on some goats. Must be losing my touch as my aim these days is woeful. Nevertheless the rifle despatched cat number two the other day. Big Fat Tom cat doing disturbing things in my yard. Tough too, that cat. Took 2 bullets.