Winching

Submitted: Saturday, Jun 09, 2007 at 20:42
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I will be taking delivery of a new Pop Top soon. This is specially made to go into my garage. I do not have any other space for it. It will need to be pulled in from the street by the draw bar as it is too long and the draw bar will need to stick out through the back garage door opening. It will need to be pulled about 9 metres up the driveway and then 4 metres through the garage. The slope on the driveway is about .04 of a metre over the 9 metre length. The weight of the caravan loaded will be no more than 1450KG. Can I use a lever action winch to move the caravan or will I need and electric motor type (more grunt). Has anyone had any experiences similar to this?
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Reply By: DIO - Saturday, Jun 09, 2007 at 21:07

Saturday, Jun 09, 2007 at 21:07
If you have to winch it up into the garage, how do you propose getting it back down/out again? 1450kg will take a bit of managing and (braking) control to stop it getting away from you, have you considered that at all? Have you thought about an extension onto the back of your garage so that you can reverse it in (including drawbar) so that it can be hitched to your vehicle in order to drive it out. The extension wouldn't have to be all that long - proably only the length of the drawbar.
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Follow Up By: Ian from Thermoguard Instruments - Sunday, Jun 10, 2007 at 08:59

Sunday, Jun 10, 2007 at 08:59
Winch it back down??
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Reply By: Willem - Saturday, Jun 09, 2007 at 21:07

Saturday, Jun 09, 2007 at 21:07
Why don't you push the van in by the drawbar(either by reversing your vehicle or with a front mounted towball) as far as it will go into the gargare and re shape the front of the garage door to suit and enclose the drawbar.
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Follow Up By: Member - stefan P (NSW) - Saturday, Jun 09, 2007 at 21:11

Saturday, Jun 09, 2007 at 21:11
In my job I have seen lots of garage doors with draw bars poking out, very common

Cheers Stefan
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Sunday, Jun 10, 2007 at 08:17

Sunday, Jun 10, 2007 at 08:17
Bloody hell ......I'd hate to see you blokes if you had to manage 42.5 tonne .......or more, Would be a good idea and in the safety of all other road users that once you get it in the garage you leave it there for-ever.
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Reply By: Ian from Thermoguard Instruments - Sunday, Jun 10, 2007 at 08:58

Sunday, Jun 10, 2007 at 08:58
Hi Learning,

Have you consider a folding drawbar such as fitted to the Eco-tourer lift-top caravans? Looked at one recently and they look very robust.

So Doug, apart from letting us all know what a competent truckie you are - what exactly is your point (in any)?
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Reply By: Mikee5 (QLD) - Sunday, Jun 10, 2007 at 16:04

Sunday, Jun 10, 2007 at 16:04
If your figures are right the slope is 0.5%. 0.04 metres is 40mm. Almost negligible. Two strong people could push it. Consider concreting a square steel tube socket into the ground outside the back doorway. Put a square steel upright into the socket. Bolt a boat trailer winch (5:1 reduction) to the upright. Use that to winch up the van.
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Follow Up By: learning - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 19:57

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 19:57
Hi Mike,

Yes , that is the info I am looking for. THe slope is not much but enough to allow my xTrail roll off down the driveway from a dead stop. Do you know what size cable I would need on the winch. I may have trouble getting enough cable onto the winch. I will need about 16 metres to pull in from the street.
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Reply By: learning - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 19:45

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 19:45
Hi All, Thank you for your reply's. I cannot make any changes at the back or front of the garage. The back roller door is not wide enough and is off set to the front door. The idea for the steel tube and insert will do fine for pulling the van in. I thought I will put another tube in the ground just outside the front door and put a insert in it with a eye on top. Then to pull the van out just run the cable from the winch to the eye and then back to the draw bar.
I would not need to pull it very far, I think I will only need to get the wheels out of the garage. I have stopped my xTrail with both front and rear wheels just out of the garage and the xTrail will slowly roll down the driveway. The wheels on the van are towards the rear and this where the most weight is.
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Reply By: Mikee5 (QLD) - Friday, Jun 15, 2007 at 18:22

Friday, Jun 15, 2007 at 18:22
Instead of loading up the winch with a lot of cable, think about doing the winching in two bites. Wind winch all the way out, attach a 'winch cable extension' of some description between winch cable hook and van. Wind winch cable all the way in to the hook. Secure the van with chocks. Remove extension, wind cable all the way out, attach to van direct and wind in again. The cable on a boat winch for a 5-6 metre boat would be more than adequate.
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Follow Up By: learning - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 19:24

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 19:24
Hi Mike,

Thanks once again. It is alright to have ideas but much better when others can confirm and enhance the process needed. Very much appreciated.
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