side caravan shade curtains from the awning
Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 12, 2007 at 19:15
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Member - SKI er (NSW)
Hi Folks
Think side awning shade cloth shields… that is shields …. but not a full annex
Saw a great idea on our recent travels. A traveller that had his front shade cloth shield, pulled back or gathered to one side … like at the London Palladium when the show is in progress.
He was using an aluminium extrusion that he said was common to the air conditioning industry. It was like a small pencil diameter with an additional but not separate 20mm flat flange. He had had it sawn into 50mm sections and drilled a hole in the flat flange.
He fitted the multiple” pencil round” parts into the slit in the awning .. at each stop.. and then hooked his front shade cloth onto the inserts I described with a series of small S hooks.
If he wanted privacy or shade he drew the curtains, if he wanted the other he gathered the shade cloth to one side. A rope ( sewn into the shade cloth) fitted in the slot doesn’t work as
well as the shade cannot be gathered to the side.. as the rope is still taking up its place in the slot
I have tried to locate the same aluminium extrusion since I got
home. No luck. But It doesn’t have to be aluminium it could be a rubberised insert like the awning pull out rope gizmo BUT that has the capability of hanging a hook from it
Off again in another 2 weeks but for 2 months this time. Any good ideas please.
Regards
SKI’er
Reply By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Tuesday, Jun 12, 2007 at 20:02
Tuesday, Jun 12, 2007 at 20:02
Not sure if this is what would solve your problem.
I had a full side shade made up using the normal annexe side as a template.
In the middle of the shade I had a plastic fitting that fits into eyelet on roll out awning fitted on both sides.
This enables shade to be erected at either side depending on sun/privacy .
Also had one made of clear plastic but only half side and this is used outside door side to enable a view but to also protect from rain coming in.
A zipper enables this to be rolled up in need.
Top is fitted to roll out awning and van side it slides up in the same way as normal annexe.
Pedro
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Follow Up By: Member - SKI er (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 08:48
Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 08:48
Thanks Peter R (Qld)
I think I am chasing a zephyr in thring to locate the extrusion. Of over 150 reads of my post no one on the crew seems to have seen the part and that is good enough for me to give up
Thanks for the effort you put into trying to solve my problem by coming at it from a different direction.
I am going to have a go at manufacturing the parts myself as per the 2nd reply post and staying with the draped curtain idea becasue it was so simple and because I can achieve it, or give it away as not going to work within the time frame I have before heading off.
Thanks again
SKI'er
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Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 17:43
Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 17:43
Hello SKI er, I know what you meen but cant help you with the commercial aluminium extrusions you mention. I made a similar set up and used some flat aluminium, 20mm x 3mm. I cut it to lengths each 30mm long, drilled a hole for the hooks in one end & then clamped it in my vice & used a ball peen hammer to burr the other end so that it would slide into the groove in the bottom of the roller to the roll out awning. Works fine & was cheap as chips.
We visited a pretty good caravan/
camping show at Maitland recently & the Jayco people had on display a set up similar to what you mention. The "shade cloth" material they had was much superior to what you would buy from the hardware & the whole ready to use item was pretty pricey as I remember, but the whole thing was neat & looked a quality item. Have to admit I can't remember what was used to attach it to the roll out roller, but it did slide in. Maybe you could buy the piece that slides in from Jayco? Good luck & best wishes on your travels
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Follow Up By: Member - SKI er (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 09:02
Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 09:02
Thanks Barry,
Over 150 folks read my post and no one seems to know of the manufactured extrusion.
Thanks for your suggestion. I am beginning to doubt my own ability... especially as I spent the last 15 years of my teaching career teaching Industrial Arts..... After 4 years away from flash workshops into retirement with precious few tools... I saw the gizmo.. mind set locked in...try to locate it... as a result I have spent more effort trying to find the part than doing what you did and making the part.
Thanks for the guidance I am sure it will work. If it works
well I will repost and tell the crew because the shade that can be drawn as
well as being attached , unattached in a minute or twi, I think is invaluable.
Regards
SKI'er
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Follow Up By: Member - SKI er (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:34
Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:34
Hi Barry,
Things just got a whole lot easier today.
Went to a shade fabric supplier today... "havachat" and told him why and what I had seen and your suggestions.... he suggested I visit a local sheet metal worker who may
well produce the 15 hanger/inserts.
The sheet metal worker suggested than a local canvas company may already have that type of insert... I went... they didn't but the proprietor suggested.... there is a rope/with plastic webbing thingey which fits into the awning slot ( you sew the shade lcoth onto the fabric onto the webbing of the thingy.
"But I don't want a rope insert becasue it will prevent the shade cloth from being gathered to the side." He looked at me aghast and showed me what he meant. He used a machine to mount 2 eyelets into the webbing of the thingy about 300mm apart. He then took out his industrial scissors and cut the webbing about 10mm to the left and right of each eyelet... result an about 35mm hanger that fits into the track. being vinyl covered rope .... with an eyele for the hook to fit....he claims it will create less wear and no electroysis than metal to metal ....and that the hangers including the eyelet can be rolled up inside the awning so it is an always in place idea just waiting for the shade curtain to be hung. He even had some special plastic type hooks that remain permanetly in the shade fabric.
I told him I wanted 15... how much... 40cents each ...$6.
Will pick the hangers up tommorrow.. the shade cutain inluding reinforcing and hooks should be ready early next week.
Thanks again for you help
SKI'er
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