4.5 Lt Petrol Landcruiser Fuel economy

Submitted: Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:00
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Hi all,
Thought the fuel consumption on my 100 series 4.5 petrol Cruiser was getting worse than normal.
So filled her up, travelled 100km around the suburbs and refilled her again to find it took 26 Litres and $34.00. Now I know these things are thirsty, but this seems a tad excessive to me.
Any other petrol owners who could tell me how they go, or if any one knows of any thing that may help I'd really appreciate it.
The vehicle has a roof rack, snorkle, ARB winch bar, dual under floor water tanks (80 Lt's) , rear wheel carrier.
Thanks to anyone who can help.
Thanks Ozzy
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Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:36

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:36
Hi Ozzy, sounds a little bit thirstier then I have heard. I have heard in the vicinity of 22/23 for the 100 series and 20/22 for the 80 series. This is one of the reasons why I didnt get one. Dont know what tyres your running but have heard mud tyres can increase the fuel by a few Litres per 100 ?? Only what Ive heard. If this seems to be normal consumption for yours then maybe a switch over to gas might be the go. Tour Boy on here has his on LPG and loves it so might be worth a thought. Thats very heavy considering my boss get 15 per 100 out of his 4.7 V8 100 series on par with my prado. Hope you sort the problem out but I dont think you have one I think thats just the way it is unless things have changed since owning it and you have worked it out previously and it was lower. My prado was high the last 2 fills presuming its due to the colder weather and wife only doing short runs in it and not totally warming up. I have also been filling up at a different servo so am running both tanks down to M.T and refill at usual servo to see if that makes a difference which I have heard people say it does but mainly on diesels not unleaded. Have you also changed servos at all ?? Just a thought Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Ozzy - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:49

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:49
Thanks for that, yeah I am running Muddies, and perhaps it's the rising cost of fuel that has highlighted the usage figures. Still be interesting to see what other 4.5 lt owners are getting fuel consumption wise.
Thanks Ozzy.
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Reply By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:41

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:41
3.85km / L

I get about 4.55 km / L in town but I am running a prototype fuel saver so can't comment on the standard consumption.

I do know some pumps are out of calibration. I filled up at the Shell the other day and the 90L tank took 104L and the reserve light had only just come on. I am waiting for Shell to contact me and tell me the pump is 10% out. The manager was going to contact them and have the pump checked.

Regards

Derek.
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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:55

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:55
Derek,
perhaps the tank has stretched with age!! LOL!
Gerry
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Follow Up By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:59

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:59
Perhaps but not since the last fill up.

Here is the photo of the pump. I have had the LC100 for 6 years and never even on complete run dry got 104L into it. Fuel is so expensive so why should they over charge for it as well.



I will fill up at the same pump again next week and check again. Will take with a 5L can to test as well.

Regards

Derek.
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 22:07

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 22:07
Have to agree Derek,

I have dual fuel and in one place earlier in the year I shut off the LPG fill with 9ltrs over the tank capacity showing. Then late last year I had a mate put 37ltrs in his Nissan 30ltr sub tank...... So it happens with all the expensive burnable stuff we use...

Seems always to be cheapest ones that overfill, so just makes you wonder just how cheap these sites really are... hmmmmmm
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Friday, Jun 15, 2007 at 08:46

Friday, Jun 15, 2007 at 08:46
Hi Blaze

The design of that sub-tank makes it prone to variable fills (Nissan orginaly rated them all at 40lt) , you can get a lot more in if ground is not flat and higher near the filler, my petrol version has slightly differnt arrangement and is rated at 36l - however it can take uo to 42lt

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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Friday, Jun 15, 2007 at 11:29

Friday, Jun 15, 2007 at 11:29
Hi Robin,
I appreciate that while petrol and diesel GUs have the same physical subtank; ie, 36L, the petrol GU has a different pickup system to the diesel giving different useable capacities (perhaps someone can come up with reasons for the different systems - Nissan couldn't).
I'm amazed Nissan couldn't have done better than the piddling 30-36L subtank (not much better than a jerrycan), given that aftermarket sub tanks run out to about 70-odd litres. And of course, they've deleted the subtank from the current series petrol GUs. Mind-boggling!
Anyway, the most I've ever been able to cram in my diesel Series I is 31L, 29 worst. I'm told that in an emergency, one can pull the drain plug and get the other 6L out of the tank.
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Gerry
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Reply By: Montemoo - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:43

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:43
Hi there

We have a 4.5 Petrol 2000 GXL model Cruiser, she is thirsty as. At present running around town we get about 340km on the 95 litre main tank. On the highway towing campertrailer we get about 22 litres/100km sitting on 90-95k/hr. We are pretty happy with that as we were expecting alot worse, and seeing aswe are travelling around Oz the highway consumption is more important to us than what we use running around town.

We have just discovered a fuel leak so hopefully when that gets fixed things might improve!!

We have 170 litre sub tank, ARB winch bar, snorkle, winch, roof rack (usually a bag on top full of stuff) dual rear wheel carriers with 2 spares.
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Follow Up By: Ozzy - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:52

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:52
Thanks,
I have the same vehicle as you, and it sounds like we have similar fuel usage figures.
thanks Ozzy
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Follow Up By: Montemoo - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:52

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 18:52
Forgot to add we also have a 5 inch lift which apparently causes fuel consumption to increase due to the increased wind resistance (or some crap like that)
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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Friday, Jun 15, 2007 at 11:31

Friday, Jun 15, 2007 at 11:31
That should allow more air to go under the vehicle!! LOL!!
Gerry
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Reply By: avro - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 20:07

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 20:07
I have a bog standard 4.5l petrol auto 100 Series. Returns around 16/17 Litres per 100 country, 21 to 22 litres per 100 towing a 16ft poptop at around the speed limit.
Do not have city figures as I live in the country, but some city miles would be included.

Regards avro
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Reply By: DIO - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 20:26

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 20:26
Any extra weight or drag (wind resistance) will add to fuel consumption. Speeding, heavy accelerating, hard braking all contribute to a driving style inconsistent with economy. I was once advised that if I wanted to improve economy, try driving (imagining) that you have an egg placed under the accelerator pedal - the object being that you don't inadvertantly break the egg.

It's a good idea to use 5 litre, 20 litre or known size container to check/verify output from servo pumps. Although not intrinsically accurate at least you'll get a pretty good indication.
Another good check is to multiply cost per litre by say 10 (1.25 = 12.50) then watch the pump, when it reaches 10 litres just check that the dollar cost displayed corresponds, in this case $12.50 just another way of checking the 'mechanics/electrics' of that particular unit.
If sometimes you do manage to 'squeeze' a bit more into your tank(s) I wouldn't be too alarmed as it can depend on the slope of the driveway/forecourt (away from the pump - you'll often get more in), how quickly you fill and if you stop at the first cut-off, 2nd, 3rd etc or until you can't get another drop in. The difference can be anything from 5 - 10 litres (in some cases even more).
It may also depend on the ambient temperature too, colder means fuel is more dense, hotter the fuel is more expanded. Least that's what I was told by a Servo Operator (friend) some time back. Mind you, I don't think you can ever expect to get anything for nothing from the oil companied. The shape/design and plumbing set-up of your installation might also have something to do with inconsistencies. You could also be getting air locks in the fuel tank breather lines which would have an impact or if the vehicle/tank is not vented correctly there could be spaces left at the top that you can't ever expect to fill. Lots of variables, suggest you use a bit of lateral thinking. Where I live, industry is required to have their pumps checked for accuracy and tagged by suitably qualified technicians. Don't know if it is a foolproof method although I've never had reason to qestion the accuracy of servo pumps.
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Follow Up By: Graham & Lynne - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 21:16

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 21:16
I just bought a 1995 80 series was suprised how fast tank went down first 200klm was 39 liters was freeway so 110km/h this is 5.1km/l
then got 5.6km/l next tank this was open road @90 to 110kmh
current tank is 1/2 empty so 45l used for 350km @ 90 kmh this is 7.7km/l
Is stock standard but roof rack next week so spare goes up there & then gas system

Cheers Graham
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Follow Up By: Graham & Lynne - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 21:21

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 21:21
forgot to say might be worth check oxygen sensor when they get old & lazy consumption goes up.

Cheers Graham
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Reply By: DANBRI - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 21:54

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 21:54
Hi Ozzy,

I'm feeling a tad better reading your comments about the cruiser. We have a 4.5 Patrol, twin carriers, bullbar winch, rooftop tent, draws etc etc. and generally return 24-26litres / 100km.

I found since I put the Kaymar rear bar on it's been quite average. Before the rear bar and without the rooftop tent I would get 18-20l / 100km.

We don't come across many people with petrols touring, for good reason obviously... I was chatting to a local in Innamincka when we were stuck there for 7 days a couple weeks back, fuel range came up in the conversation... It wasn't long before the entire town was blown away by our consumption figures!! (all 150 of us stranded)
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Reply By: Mike - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 23:30

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 23:30
I have a 2004 LC 100 series V8 get 14ltrs/100kms sitting on 100/105kms, going over to SA last month on the nullabour sat on 95kms cruise control on and got 12.5ltrs/100kms, once you get up around the 115/120kms it will suck the juice......with the Van on the back (2000kg) get 18ltrs/100kms
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Reply By: Rod W - Friday, Jun 15, 2007 at 09:35

Friday, Jun 15, 2007 at 09:35
Ya didn't say if its auto or manual.

I have a 4.5lt in a troopy (manual). I get 5.6ks per litre on petrol and 4.6ks per litre on gas.
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Reply By: Member - Tour Boy- Friday, Jun 15, 2007 at 20:55

Friday, Jun 15, 2007 at 20:55
Hi Ozzy,
I get 18-20l per 100km on gas running up and over the mountains every day. 18 with the boat (4.8m) going up the coast and around 14 l 100km on petrol in the mountains.
I would no doubt get better milage if I drove it differently and reduced the time warming it up.
I'm also running 285 muds, lift, bars, wheel carrier, drawers, fridge and all manner of other crap incl snow chains all the time so that doesn't help.
I have the twin LPG tanks setup and still have the original twin petrol tanks (more weight)
Regards
Tour Boy
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