Sunbeam Vacuum Packaging System

Submitted: Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 21:33
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Hi All

Thinking of buying a Sunbeam Foodsaver Vacuum Packaging System, went to
a retailer today but nobody could help me with my enquiries, has anybody got
one, are they worth the money? We will be getting our meat cryovact by our
local butcher but we were thinking of doing all our vegies ourselves. With
food that has been cryovact do you have to hand it in at food check points?
Any feedback much appreciated.
Cheers

Matt & Julie


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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 21:39

Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 21:39
We just bought the bigger model. It works really well. I don't think the procedure is exactly identical to cryovaccing (I hope double c is correct, I've just posted a few entries on the bad spelling Thread) but I expect the food to last a couple of weeks using this machine. We will find out next month.

You can't always find butchers who will cryovac so I figure this is the next best thing.

Buy a couple of extra roles of plastic too.

Don't know about Check Point procedures.
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 21:48

Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 21:48
Bad news bloke, Cryovac is a trade name of Sealed Air Corporation and has become synonymous with vacuum packaging.

According to Sealed Air Corpration, Cryovac = Vacuum Packaging.

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Reply By: normc - Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 22:37

Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 22:37
Not an answeer Matt and Julie, but I'm also looking at geting a vacuum packing machine.
I've found it hard to get the specs on the 'suction power' of the Sunbeam. I'm told it is around -350 mBar, but have not seen this is a spec sheet.
Other slightly more expensive machines have a power of -800 mBar.

I know people with the Sunbeam and it clearly works well. I'm trying to work out the 'bang for your buck' equation and am leaning towards the more powerful machines available from Vacuseal and others.

Anybody got any specific knowledge or experience in terms of machines of different 'suction power'.

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Follow Up By: honestjohn - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 17:23

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 17:23
i agree NormC vacuseal is the way to go a mate had a sunbeam model he took it back useless he said compared to vacuseal
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 23:16

Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 23:16
Matt and Julie, have a Sunbeam and it seems to do a pretty acceptable job. Don't bother with some of the high moisture veggies so much. Fruit may have been treated by the vacuum but don't expect exceptions to be made. The effect it has on meat and fish has been good in our experience. I smoke my own salmon portions and have cold and they seem to go well. Bacon life extended for weeks with butchers bacon. Stops lots of mess too.
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Follow Up By: Junior - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 00:25

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 00:25
I'll second that- we also have the sunbeam. Definately extends useable life of meats- and especially good for avoiding mess in the engel! We still wrap our vegies and some fruit individually in newspaper and then in cardboard box in dry, cool/dark place in the car.

We too found it hard to get specs from anyone to compare machines- but we saw some different makes in action- and none seemed to remove much more air than the other.
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Follow Up By: Junior - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 00:28

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 00:28
...and that should be "definitely"!!!
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Reply By: AdrianLR (VIC) - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:41

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:41
I recently bought a "nozzle" type of vacuum sealer off eBay. The very significant advantage over the Sunbeam is that it doesn't need the textured bags. The textured bags are between 3 and 10 times more expensive than the smooth bags. There are 4 regular sellers of the same machine on eBay and the prices vary between $65 delivered (what I paid late on a Sunday night) to $159 for BuyItNow.

I bought (again on eBay) an ebook called the Vacuum Sealer Guide for 99c US. Some very good information. Hints like putting meat into the bag then into the freezer for an hour prior to sealing to reduce liquids seem to be just pedantic hassles but after sucking meat juices into the sealer the first time and having them go off inside the pump I now prefreeze.

Very happy so far. I'm starting a few experiments. One at the moment is comparing cut brocollli just vacuumed & in the fridge to blanched/vaccumed and in the fridge and blanched, packed then frozen.

A dramatic difference is that frozen meats don't end up with freezer burn even after months of storage.

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Follow Up By: Travellers - Wednesday, Jun 20, 2007 at 17:43

Wednesday, Jun 20, 2007 at 17:43
Thanks for the lead Adrian, and have been to eBay for a look. There appears to be a bit of variation among the descriptions of the models there - and a relatively significant variation in price - even Buy Now prices. Any tips on what the differences are? Which did you buy and what do you think of it?

Comments from other food packers would also be useful ..........
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Follow Up By: AdrianLR (VIC) - Wednesday, Jun 20, 2007 at 22:36

Wednesday, Jun 20, 2007 at 22:36
This is the same as the one I bought:
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Of the sellers of this unit this chap seems to be consistently the cheapest. I have no idea why. The service was great (no connection etc etc). The specs are a cut-and-paste for all the sellers. Some include 50 rather than 35 bags but thats only a couple of dollars difference (I just bought 400 bags of two sizes for $74 delivered). Do a search on "vaccuum sealer" and click on "completed items" in the left hand options pane. This will give you a feel for when and from whom to buy. I waited for a couple of months before I got the price that I wanted to pay.

Our fridge seems to be filling with vaccumed stuff! Yesterday was a big bag of grated cheese split into small quantities. We never finish a big bag before the last bit goes green.

I suspect that the machines that use textured bags work very well (potentially better than the nozzle type) but I was put off by the price of the bags (even on eBay they were much more expensive than the plain ones).

Adrian
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Reply By: Member - TasGareth (TAS) - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:57

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:57
Hi Mattt and Julie
We have the Sunbeam model and pre freeze then vacupack meat veg and pre cooked meals, helps pack them flat in the Engel Freezer section, saves a lot of mess and room. Lets you take all those yummy casseroles and such like with you.
Well worth the outlay IMHO. I the vegies are cooked and frozen the boarder patrol are not interested, they only go for fresh, as I have learnt from talking to the quarantine blokes.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 15:49

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 15:49
Seems logical - freezing will kill any bugs liing in the veges.

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Reply By: greggu - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 13:16

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 13:16
mate we have the small sunbeam unit bought from kmart on sale $175 less 20 % and it does a pretty good jobe and as its a small size we can take it with us on trips so can seal stuff while away - use to seal fresh meat fish bait etc but do put tissues or a paper napkin at opening to soak up juices and not get into unit when air is sucked out - very happy with out unit
see you greg
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 16:00

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 16:00
Bought the Mezzo from Aldi when they had it for $99 complete with bags and a roll - they sold out very quickly.

It sure seems to suck out every trace of air.

I'm using it at home to stop freezer-burn on meat.

I'm also finding it useful for bushwalking to pack things that are rarely used so they will be fully protected - I've packed some of the white Firelighter blocks as emergency cooking fire or firestarting and packing first-aid supplies. These bags are stronger than ziplock bags and you'll know if there's the tiniest leak.

The main lesson I've learnt is to not have the food within 3cm of the sealing edge because it may put a wrinkle in the plastic and fail to seal.
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Reply By: Member - 120scruiser (NSW) - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 17:14

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 17:14
Matt and Julie
I have the Sunbeam Food Preserver VS5200. We bought it from Retravision and they always stock the rolls of bags. We bought it in July 2005 and paid $179.00 for it. I take it with me in the car when we go on trips. On our last red centre trip our meat lasted 2 weeks in the fridge until we got to Alice and then restocked for another 2 weeks.
I have just gone through the instructions and read everything that came with the machine and it doesn't say anywhere the power of the thing. Either way I am very happy with mine. Others in our club even used it in Alice and then went and bought one as well.
To stop juices getting into the machine I just buy the continuous roll of bags and cut them extra long. It stops stuff leaking through the fridge and makes cooking very easy and convenient.

Go for it.
120scruiser
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Reply By: Member - Brian H (QLD) - Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 22:04

Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 22:04
This maybe of interest to read for people vac sealing some good hits.

http://www.sunbeam.com.au/product_documents/VAC550-420_IB.pdf

Brian
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