80 Series Headlights

Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 15:11
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Hi,

New to the world of 4wdriving, I have recently purchased an 80 series landcruiser (94 4.5L Petrol GXL model). Have done one trip in it so far from the "4wd days out of Perth" booklet and could not be happier with it's performance when matched with my limited experience!! (the fact the track was blocked due to a burnt out wreckage and we couldn't get through was the worst part!).
Anyway, my biggest problem with the car so far is it's low beam headlights, and I was wondering if this was a generic problem with the 80 series or if anyone can offer me any suggestions. Here is the issue....
On high beam, the headlights are magnificent, on low beam, you can only see about 50 metres in front at the most. It's actually so bad that wherever possible, we avoid taking the car out at night as it's just plain dangerous if you're on a road without any street lights.

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Reply By: Wayne-o (Pilbara WA) - Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 15:18

Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 15:18
Not too sure about the headlights, but a drag chain would have fixed the problem of the wreck blocking the track as well as doing the rangers a favour. Besides it always a bit of fun skull draggin a POS outa ya way.
Cheers
Wayne-o
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Reply By: Scoey (QLD) - Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 15:28

Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 15:28
G'Day Sibe,

The low beam on my 80 (also a '94 4.5l Petrol GXL) is fine in my opinion. I have noticed that the reflectors get dirty easily and this affects the light but they're easy to pull out and clean. There are a multitude of upgrade looms and bulbs and the like that will increase the brightness of your lights however, so maybe check them out?

Good luck!

Cheers
Scoey!
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Reply By: LCRUZA (VIC) - Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 15:52

Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 15:52
I have 94 80 as well and installed a Piranha Super loom many yaers ago and it made a significant difference as it puts the full alternator voltage onto the globes insetaed of the nromal 10.5Volts. I have not found any increase in globe failure either. ARB have their own and there is also a diagram in the technical section of LCOOL www.lcool.org.

Ron
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 17:17

Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 17:17
I have a 1991 80 series and have had the same problem. I have not done anything about it. Big problem is the voltage drop up to the headlights. The looms mentioned earlier will improve what you already have, and also have enough grunt if you want to put in some more high powered inserts. I believe Hella have some, and with the new globes on the market, can be used without worry.

If you are an electrical gelding like I am, a visit to your friendly auto electrician will put things right for you.

Jack
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Reply By: Max - Sydney - Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 18:25

Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 18:25
Sibe

My 1997 80 series is still ok on low beam - I've never felt the need to buy spotties or driving lights.

Try the simple things first like - replace the bulbs in the low beam lights (I reckon the ones you get from a Toyota dealer last twice as long), chuck the headlight covers as they go yellow after about 5 - 6 years, clean the reflectors, check all the plugs, fuses etc are tight.After that I'd be looking at one of the special looms mentioned above.

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Max
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Reply By: Member - Debbie R (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 18:54

Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 18:54
Sibe,

Just read your post and we have two 80 series Landcruisers and yes I agree with you the low beam is absolute c**p we have changed the globes in the low beam I think we had them changed to 100/55 watt H4 and now have no problem. Suggest Rally H7 for high beam. Note: do not use 100/55 in plastic headlights they will melt. We travel close behind our lead car on regular 4wd outings and they have no problem with the glare from our low beam with the higher globes.

Regards
Debbie
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Reply By: Graham & Lynne - Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 19:16

Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 19:16
I also just bought a 1995 80 series & put Narva Artic blue bulbs in all 4 h/lights.
Sibe you may have up graded bulbs in the inners which are high beam only ,so need to upgrade outers only. Also take to a mechanic & get h/lights adjusted they are all individual adjustable.
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Reply By: Abo - Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 22:00

Tuesday, Jun 26, 2007 at 22:00
Hi,

Have a 95 cruiser have had issues with the headlights myself, best thing to do is find a good auto sparky get them to make you a new headlight harness with to hella relays one for Low Beam and one for High Beam, leave original harness in the car and splice into it for your switching signals for the new harness. (to involved to remove old harness and is always there for a back up) After new harness installed I fitted new Hella Hi/Low headlamp inserts with 90/100w globes, it makes a remarkable differance.(especially when you dip down from High Beam/Spotlights)
Hope this helps you out heaps, if you need any more info feel free to contact me.

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Reply By: KSV- Wednesday, Jun 27, 2007 at 09:29

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2007 at 09:29
As mentioned above – change stock wiring first. I have wire everything by myself directly from battery using both positive and negative wire with as least 8GA OCF cable. Just doing this improves light dramatically because stock wires supply only 10-11-ish voltage to globes. If you uneasy to do it by yourself then look for specially design aftermarket loom (though IMHO self-made would be better). Second step would be get IPF reflectors instead of stock one (about $50 each from ARB). Not only they rated for higher wattage, but also high-beam utilizes two-coil bulbs (as per low beam). Originally secondary coil just doing nothing, but it quite easy to hook it up to low beam one. I did it and result absolutely magnificent.
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Reply By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2007 at 09:39

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2007 at 09:39
you didn't mention if your lights where halogen or sealed beam,firts thing i would do is measure voltage at the light socket,if good, buy some halogen lights to replace the sealed beams(if thats what is there),100/55 work well with clean lights and don't dazzle on coming traffic in wet conditions and wont reqiure rewiring the lighting harness and you can do the job your self for less than $200.
They are a common small rectangular headlight and can be sourced at any car accessory place (rep..,supache..,)any of them
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Follow Up By: Sibe - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2007 at 11:00

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2007 at 11:00
Thanks everyone for your help & suggestions....looks like it's me under the bonnet this weekend!!

Sibe
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2007 at 14:17

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2007 at 14:17
Standaed wiring is fine - it was just a problem invented so a fix could b ceated.
Replace the gobes -the reflectors get tarnished. They are a sealed unit and arnt dear. Then adjust them correctly(I suspect this is your problem)
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Follow Up By: KSV- Thursday, Jun 28, 2007 at 12:03

Thursday, Jun 28, 2007 at 12:03
My humble opinion that standard wiring is absolute cr@p, not only in LC, but in any cars what I had. Even brand new car has voltage drop in wiring as least 1 volt and this means 15% loss of power. With time all this crimping style connectors became oxidized and drop of 2 volts (around 30% loss of power) is fairly common on car more then 5 years of age. First thing what I have done with every car what I had is replace factory lighting wiring – 8GA, everything soldered. You will be amazed even with stock bulbs. It is true that bulbs went off more frequently - about one per year (!!!!!) instead of never (!!!!), but it is not a huge drama to lost one bulb and in addition it is advisable to have spare one handy anyway.
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Reply By: Member - Howard (ACT) - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2007 at 21:03

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2007 at 21:03
dont understand what the complaint about low beam is , if you need to run low beam there is either traffic about or youre in a built up area.

if the above doesnt apply go to high beam ,nothing wrong with 80- series high beam.

I cannot understand why anyone needs lights that shine a kilometre down the road ahead.you only need to be able to see the distance it takes to pull up.

except for 6 volt vw's most standard lights do that. anyhow after dark is relax time not drive time.

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Follow Up By: Sibe - Thursday, Jun 28, 2007 at 15:13

Thursday, Jun 28, 2007 at 15:13
Around town...no complaint. I use high beam when there's no other cars about anyway.

But out on the open road, when you've got a car maybe 700-1000 metres away (or more on some roads) coming towards you, you switch to low beam. So when you're doing 100kph, got the glare from the oncoming vechiles headlights, and your lights wouldn't show you a 2 metere Roo standing in the middle of the road 50 metres in front of you....Call me over cautious, but I reckon that's a bit of a problem.

Has anyone managed to get a fully loaded 80 series doing 100 clicks to pull up in under 50 metres?
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Thursday, Jun 28, 2007 at 10:45

Thursday, Jun 28, 2007 at 10:45
For starters, dont be tempted to go bigger bulbs, the wiring cant handle the amps, and the light fades. the best solution is to buy the good branded blue globes at 55/60 watts. Problem with this is the reflecters are so small, not much light is projected on the road...so i went out and bought a pair of sahara headlights...huge reflecter and $300 the pair secondhand, they bolt straight in aslong as you get the parkers aswell... with the beforementioned globes....not too bad.
Running larger wattage globes would be the next best thing, but, when you run the upgraded wiring looms, you ralise that Toyota in their infinite wisdom, made it that way for a reason....less light is beter than no light, and globes dont like running on a full 14 volts...they blow and leave you in the dark....
so...what i have done is to upgrade the high beam centre globes to 100 watt and ran them through a relay and thicker wire...the outside high/lows use std wattage and std wiring...double safety feature...and the larger reflecter gives ample illumination.....
Now the best by far way to get light on the road would be HID globes in sahara lights....
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