Self Install Dual Batt System for GU Patrol

Submitted: Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 17:34
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Hi,

Has anyone installed their own Dual Battery System in a GU ST 3.0 TD Patrol with ABS ?

ARB sell the Battery trays for around $100 & just wanting to know if this can be installed without drilling holes or moving bits around.

Thanks
Phil P


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Reply By: BM - Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 17:54

Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 17:54
Hi Phil,

I recently did this install on my GUIII. The battery tray just bolts in using existing holes. You need to remove the passenger side indicator so you can bolt through the inner guard, just remove the plastic cable clip and use that hole. The separator can be bolted to a plate adajacent to the ABS unit. I secured the wiring loom to the main battery with cable ties to the brake lines that run along the rear of the firewall. I have some photos of the completed install at

Hope this helps,

cheers
brendan
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Follow Up By: Phil P - Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 17:59

Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 17:59
Hi Brendan,

Thanks for that, the URL didn't post ! can you please repost it ?

Did you use the ARB Battery Tray ?

Thanks
Phil P
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Follow Up By: BM - Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 18:10

Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 18:10
Sorry about that,I bought the complete kit for ARB minus the battery. I also went with a standard cranking battery for the moment, purchased from kmart for about $110 The url is http://homepage.mac.com/bmalone/PhotoAlbum12.html

cheers
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 22:07

Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 22:07
BM

What did you seal your leaking snorkel with????
And was it leaking from the join which leads from the guard into the air filter???

cheers
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Reply By: Phil P - Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 18:20

Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 18:20
Thanks Brendan,

If you had your time again, would you do the install again ? or just pay ARB to do it ?

Phil P
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Follow Up By: BM - Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 18:42

Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 18:42
A good question... Now that I have done it once I would be happy doing it again. recently removed the battery tray to repair the seal on my snorkel, much quicker the second time around. I enjoyed the experience and I know how the kit goes together. I have some bad experiences with paying people to install stuff, my leaking snorkel was a good example. If you have a spare few hours or a day like me then go for it!

cheers,

Brendan
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Follow Up By: Mick and Jennie - Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 19:34

Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 19:34
Gday Brendan,
we have a GU 4.2TD, have just had ARB fit a Safari Snorkel and read that you had one which leaked. Was it the same as ours and if so where did it leak. I will be looking more closely, as ours seems to be fine, however has not been tested in water as yet.
Cheers Mick
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Follow Up By: Member - Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 21:47

Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 21:47
I did it and would do it myself every time Phil,

Its a piece of cake. I used the ARB tray and made up my own cables and leads, used a REDARC battery isolator between the batteries and it works a treat for $119 from Ingram at Tullamarine. I run a voltmeter/tem gauge mounted on the front of the GU overhead console to keep track of the volts on the second battery and you can see when the relay is closed etc. Also used a cranking battery (got it for nothing!) and its about 85amphr but doesnt have the repeated comeback capabilities of a true deep cycle but it'll run the winch ok and lights etc, just dont want to kill it with a fridge too often.

Cant see why to pay ARB unless you have absolutely no idea. The only tricky bit is getting the indicator assembly out but persevere and it'll happen.

all the best________________________________>
Fraser Island Dreaming
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Reply By: Allan - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 00:21

Monday, May 05, 2003 at 00:21
Mick and Jennie
I also have a Safari snorkel on my TD42 and the leak points seem to be between the air spinner box and the wall of the engine bay. I think you're supposed to mount the spinner with a sealant of some sort which may well work to keep water out but dosn't inspire confidence in me. The other spot is where the flexi hose fastens to the inlet on the air filter, The filter inlet is a square section with a single screw holding the hose on. Totally useless as a water seal. Even a hose clamp of some kind would be dodgy cos the hose is plastic and the square nature of the join would only grip well on the corners and be unreliable on the flat sections. Sealant would help but would also be unreliable for a water seal and make the whole thing dicky to remove. More bad design.
Allan
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Reply By: BM - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 08:48

Monday, May 05, 2003 at 08:48
My snokel was leaking between the air cleaner box and the inner guard. The silicone used by the installer had come away. I used a prouct called stikaflex, this is an adhesive type silicone,black in colour and very sticky! Now sealed tight and seems to be holding well.

Cheers,

Brendan
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Follow Up By: Michael - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 17:50

Monday, May 05, 2003 at 17:50
Hi Brendan, This may be a silly question but why dont owners of Patrols buy a genuine snorkel from Nissan, its the same price? I can only suggest it would be well designed with the thought that no water should enter the intake.. Cheers Michael
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Follow Up By: Member - Richard - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 21:33

Monday, May 05, 2003 at 21:33
Michael, don't you believe it. Nissan still have to install their own snorkel kit aftermarket as an accessory and mine came away at the joint to the guard the same as every one else. You just have to be vigilant when checking over your vehicle to pick things like this up. Stationary ,it is hard to identify but at 80-100 km/hr and over corrugations or working hard up climbs these gaps open up!
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Follow Up By: BM - Tuesday, May 06, 2003 at 13:37

Tuesday, May 06, 2003 at 13:37
Hi Micheal,

I was quoted $800 for a Nissan snorkel, $300 more than the Safari... And as Richard says they are both prone to coming away at thos particular seal if not installed correctly.

Cheers,

Brendan
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Reply By: rors101 - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 09:17

Monday, May 05, 2003 at 09:17
If you just get the tray from ARB make sure you get the instructions! It seems simple but matching washers and bolts etc is a pain - I would have saved hours if told the how to on removing the indicator for that tricky top bolt - if not, I just hope you have long slender arms so you dont cut yourself from wrist to elbow like I did!
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Reply By: Groove - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 09:41

Monday, May 05, 2003 at 09:41
Hi Phil,
I just purchased the ARB tray for my GU Patrol (I have ABS).
The instruction were very clear, good diagrams ect.
One thing I found was that I had to bend a couple of the mounting points in order for them to line up with the existing holes in the patrol. I would replace the supplied bolts with high tensile bolts. Apart from that the install went well.

I used the Rotronics Isolator ($230) and an exide extreme battery ($140). All the cable, terminals etc was from BIAS boating in parramatta, they are an excelletnt source for this type of thing.

Groove
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Reply By: Phil P - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 20:17

Monday, May 05, 2003 at 20:17
Thanks for all your replies, I now have the confidence to give it a go myself !

Phil P
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Follow Up By: Member - Bonz (Vic) - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 21:55

Monday, May 05, 2003 at 21:55
Good stuff Phil.Gimme a hoy if ya need a hand!

Bonz________________________________>
Fraser Island Dreaming
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