Quiet Generator
Submitted: Thursday, Jun 28, 2007 at 21:16
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bbuzz
I have put my EX350 Honda Generator into an old Esky to run it quieter. Everything fits but the 12v Computer Fan to force air across the unit. I have burnt out two fans (old testing ones) because the 10 amps put out by the generator is overloading the 1.6 amp of the fan motor. (I think). Do I need something in the 12v wiring to cut the amperage to the fan(s)? If so what? Any body done this??
Reply By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Thursday, Jun 28, 2007 at 21:39
Thursday, Jun 28, 2007 at 21:39
Think you would be better off with a 240v regulated power supply to run the fan, but there are plenty of 12v experts out there who probably know more than me.
I think it would be best if it is pushing air rather than sucking air too, you dont mention which.
Good idea but, also disquises it from passing eyes, could also paint it in camoflage.
Cheers Pesty
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Reply By: Boobook2 - Thursday, Jun 28, 2007 at 21:44
Thursday, Jun 28, 2007 at 21:44
bbuzz,
Most computer fans are designed to run with a powersupply of 12V plus or minus 5%. Ie a maxmum of about 12.6V.
Not sure about the EX350, but it possibly puts out 13.8V if it is to run automotive 12v appliances. This might be enough over the fan spec to
cook it slowly.
If you have access to a multimeter or the generator specs,
check the voltage output. If it is 13.8V you can put 2 diodes ( IN4004 or similar) in series with the fan to drop the voltage to about 12v. You can get them at Jaycar, Dick smith etc for about 10c each.
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Follow Up By: David N. - Friday, Jun 29, 2007 at 21:59
Friday, Jun 29, 2007 at 21:59
Nah, not 13.8 but MUUUCCCHHH higher actually.
They are NOT regulated and are ONLY for battery charging.
Although I haven't looked at an EX350, but many others can put out up to 20v on no, or low load (eg a computer fan)
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Reply By: pjchris - Thursday, Jun 28, 2007 at 22:24
Thursday, Jun 28, 2007 at 22:24
On most generators (and I know from experience with the Honda eu10i) the 12V output is not regulated in any way and will be at about 12-13v when you pull maximum current from it and up to 17V when nothing is connected.
However you are only pulling 1.6A and if you measure the voltage on the fan I wouldn't be surprised to find 15-16V and that will burn the fan out fairly quickly.
If I were you I would pick up a 240V computer fan and wire it to the 240V ouput on the Generator as this should be better regulated.
Peter
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Follow Up By: bbuzz - Friday, Jun 29, 2007 at 20:44
Friday, Jun 29, 2007 at 20:44
Thanks. That sounds what it is. The ones I burned out were old but did it in about 1 minute of being on! I have charged my battery with it and I think the lecko said it put out about 13 to 14v, which is Ok for the regulator on the battery. Will have to get a meter and
check.
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Reply By: obee - Thursday, Jun 28, 2007 at 22:39
Thursday, Jun 28, 2007 at 22:39
A fan does not push or suck, it pushes and sucks. Simply transfer of air from one side to other. If its not getting enough air or it has to work too hard to push the air out the other side then it will overload maybe. I wonder if the air flow is restricted.
If you are pushing air in then it needs to get out somewhere. The motor is going to pull a lot of air in anyway for the combustion of fuel and needs plenty of room to blow the exhaust out. You would want to have a good look at where the cooling air enters the generator and where it leaves and provide big holes in the esky.
My opinion anyway. Good idea, but. I will keep an eye out for one chucked out on the street cleanups.
Owen
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Friday, Jun 29, 2007 at 08:34
Friday, Jun 29, 2007 at 08:34
A lot of these devices are "on the edge" re the conditions they can tolerate.... when made for world markets, some devices find our climate a bit confronting at times - the gennie probably wants cool clean air to the max, to function as designed. EG - my Yamaha EF1000iS inverter gennie developed a vapour block at one stage, running in the shade, but in 35C ambient (since avoided by taking the rear cover off during hot weather - better air flow round the innards). EG 2 - My 3 stage 240V smart battery charger bought through Derek - it has a thermal overload inbuilt - while in the shade in the open air, if ambient temperatures are in the mid 30's, I can't use it - keeps dropping out - its really a mild weather charger only (bit of a bugger - hot weather is usually when the batteries need a top up !!).
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