Crankshaft Bolt

Submitted: Saturday, Jun 30, 2007 at 23:37
ThreadID: 47275 Views:4962 Replies:4 FollowUps:5
This Thread has been Archived
After replacing the timing cover lip seal on my 2H diesel engine Ihave the issue of trying the cranshaft bolt to 441nm (328ft lbs) Being an automatic,I have run out of ideas on how to lock anything up so I can obtain correct installation. if anyone has any ideas it would greatly appreciated. Note the engine and tranny are still together and in the vehicle

Thanks Chuka
Mackay Qld
Back Expand Un-Read 0 Moderator

Reply By: V8 Troopie - Sunday, Jul 01, 2007 at 00:37

Sunday, Jul 01, 2007 at 00:37
Chuka, this may be just a silly idea but I have managed to lock up the old 2H my troopy once had by pouring new oil too fast into the rocker cavity. Had to remove every glow plug to get the stuff out and the engine to turn over.

Now, my idea is to do the reverse. Pull ot a glow plug or two and squirt engine oil into it, replace glowplug. I dare say you will need more than 441nm to turn the crankshaft over now.
But, do remove the glow plugs again before you try to crank the motor with the starter!

No guarantee for that idea though.

Klaus
AnswerID: 250118

Follow Up By: mr fixit - Sunday, Jul 01, 2007 at 08:30

Sunday, Jul 01, 2007 at 08:30
NO. . .NO dont do that, you may do damage to the engine. . . .bent con rod are no a nice thing.
Remove starter motor and wedge ring gear teeth to stop crankshaft from turning.

0
FollowupID: 511259

Reply By: Worm73 - Sunday, Jul 01, 2007 at 08:52

Sunday, Jul 01, 2007 at 08:52
Hi Chuka mate under no circumstances fill the pots with oil then try and tighten bolt. This is called Hydraulic lock up and not good for any engine. As the other reply states try removing starter motor and wedging converter drive plate teeth. If all else fails do what 99% of us mechanics would do get a good quality 1/2 inch drive impact gun make sure your compressor is supplying at least 100psi then tighten the sucker up.
Sometimes when you don't have all the means to do the job correctly with the specified tensions you have to resort to a impact gun. People will knock this method but I have done this on occasions over the last 17 years without problem. The main thing is to be aware and know the feel of how tight the bolt is, this only comes from experience.
Cheers Worm.
AnswerID: 250126

Follow Up By: chuka - Sunday, Jul 01, 2007 at 09:02

Sunday, Jul 01, 2007 at 09:02
Thanks Worm
I did have a similar thought via the inspection plate under the bell housing but was restrained by the thought of creating and unwanted crack. Also Inedd to know if the socket is a standard metric size as I removed the bolt with Stilsons wedged against the water pump and flicked the starter. Funny how thing come of easy but a pain to put back.

Thanks Chuka
0
FollowupID: 511260

Follow Up By: Worm73 - Sunday, Jul 01, 2007 at 09:39

Sunday, Jul 01, 2007 at 09:39
No probs Chuka, Hey dont stress to much about causing a crack, the thing is you find you dont need much force to hold the converter drive plate with a screwdriver because the centre of the crank to the outside of the drive plate is further to that of the front bolt you in fact create a larger levering advantage with this method. Mate as for the size of the bolt I dont realy know but I can't see it being anything to special. Just measure from flat to flat to get your sizing.
Cheers Worm
0
FollowupID: 511265

Follow Up By: chuka - Sunday, Jul 01, 2007 at 09:55

Sunday, Jul 01, 2007 at 09:55
Thanks for the reply worm i might attempt to make a special tool for the application while waiting for the balancer hub to be sleeved.

Regards Chuka
0
FollowupID: 511269

Reply By: Martyn (WA) - Sunday, Jul 01, 2007 at 14:18

Sunday, Jul 01, 2007 at 14:18
Chucka,
I put a strap wrench around the crankshaft pulley and wedge the arm of the strap wrench in the chassis somewhere. Has to be a good quality strap wrench not one of the ones you use for taking the oil filter off. Even then I broken a strap, it broke "nicely" and didn't snap suddenly causing me to fall into the engine bay or anything just in case you have a fear of this. Some of the hire people hire these out, saves paying for something you'll only use once.
Keep the shiny side up

Lifetime Member
My Profile  My Blog  Send Message

AnswerID: 250154

Reply By: John Davies - Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 12:33

Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 12:33
Not knowing landcruisers, but can you take the sump off and chock the crank with a piece between it and the block.
Or
If you have a removable belts pulley, make a tool that uses its bolt holes to restrain the crank harmonic balancer which I am guessing is keyed to the crank. The tool should be long enough to rest against the chassis rail.

John D
AnswerID: 250289

Follow Up By: chuka - Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 21:54

Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 21:54
Thanks John
That sounds more logical for assembly in this instance.I have spoken to my local engine shop and the will loan me a torqueing multiplier which enables my trusty 120ftlb Warren and Brown Torque wrench to obtain adequate tension.

Many Thanks
Chuka
0
FollowupID: 511585

Sponsored Links

Popular Products (9)