Jerry cans again? Water in Steel cans?

Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 20:28
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Hi all,
All this talk of jerry cans has got me thinking. Apart from the obvious of rust, can a steel jerry can be used for water.
My thinking being, in case of the unthinkable and the ute happens to burst into flames. All my water containers are plastic. But if I have 2 that are steel then will it be ok to survive on?
I can only think that it would considering any water is better than no water.
I don't trust this ute so I want to cover all bases.
Peter
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Reply By: Member - lyndon K (SA) - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 20:36

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 20:36
I tried the water/steel can thing years ago. Yes it may keep you alive, but after heaps of rinsing just using it for a shower was gross.
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Reply By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 21:01

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 21:01
Peter

Steel Jerry cans have been used for a very long time to carry water and fuel.

Would steel be better in a significant fire? I doubt it.

I've never had a problem with steel containers as long as they contain water.

Sometimes a few rust particles form, but a good blast with a hose will clean it out.

As an aside, what's the problem with the Nissan?

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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 06:47

Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 06:47
He wants a Yota :)

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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 18:12

Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 18:12
I got 2 Yota's Kev :) Ok both don't go at the moment but the 03 lux only needs a battery
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Reply By: Scrubcat - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 21:03

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 21:03
G`day Peter,
New ones should be OK, or you can now get stainless steel ones in various sizes from ARB or TJM, bigish $`s though.
Scrubcat.

PS . I have no affiliation with any company or retailer.
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 06:48

Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 06:48
I think that the stainless ones are produced by Bushranger so any reseller should be able to get them for you.

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Reply By: fisho64 - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 23:52

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2007 at 23:52
I think you will find that every steel ship, cruise liner, steel trawler, oil rig, and any other such apparatus stores potable water in steel tanks. Oxidised steel isnt toxic that I know of unless there is so much that you choke on it!
It would take a horrendously hot fire to get thru a full steel jerry can, much much more than any plastic one.
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Reply By: Member - Karl - Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 09:44

Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 09:44
Buy a decent fire extinguisher or two and keep them in handy places - they should be able to extinguish the fire before it gets to that point where the whole vehicle would burst into flames - IMHO.

Therefore you shouldn't need steel cans for water, also not being a scientist and am willing to take any constructive criticism here - but if a fire engulfed the steel cans, firstly it would cause them to boil, which in turn makes steam and with no where to vent the steam it would more than likely cause the jerries to burst anyway due to the pressure build up and you would loose your water.

Secondly once the fire is out the steel has been burnt and would start to rust almost immediately anyway - therefore the water (that is left) will become contaminated very quickly - just look at any can you throw on a fire.

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Follow Up By: Moose - Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 13:22

Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 13:22
Good points Karl.
Wonder whether the plastic ones might actually be better - as they get hot and soft they might stretch and expand but possibly not rupture - like a balloon. After all you can boil water in a paper cup cake without it burning so perhaps a similar principle applies with a plastic container (albeit that one is open and the other closed). However I ain't no scientific type individual so if anyone knows better I'm happy to be enlightened.
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 18:18

Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 18:18
Thanks Karl,
I do have 2 fire extinguishers handy on the back board of the ute but I have read here that they do not work all that well if they are not used upright
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Reply By: Member - Vincent A M (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 17:33

Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 17:33
There are a couple of steel jerry cans just made for water by rheam aust & are normally blue in colour, & are the same price as normal green ones. If the taste is too bad use some (sodium hydrogen Carbonate) 2oz per 15 gallons of water or
Aqua Fresh from most good marine shops it is even safe to leave in the water tank

I still use plastic jerry's but have a alloy 80ltr under the tray as well.

Peter in case of fire you will find the steel ones will leak very quickly in the seams a friend had he,s car catch on fire some years ago on a trip with us on the canning & the 2 jerry's on carrier 1 plastic & 1 steel both with water the steel leaked all its water & the plastic melted but did keep about 10ltrs the car was totalled (took about 90 seconds & you could not get near it) it made the rest of the trip crowed & rationed

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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 18:16

Thursday, Jul 12, 2007 at 18:16
Thanks Vincent, that was the answer I was looking for....... I will be taking 120 litres 4x25 litres and a stainless steel 20 l under the tray
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