1st 4x4, mark 2
Submitted: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 14:47
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zam045
Hi Guys
My first post here was about getting my first 4x4 (a HJ40), and after your
feedback and some further research have decided against it.
The more I look into this the more I want my 4x4 for serious 4x4ing, camping, fishing etc.
So here is what I have decided, a dual cab Toyota Hilux. Ideally I would like either the 2.8 or 3 lt turbo deisel, if for no other reason then extra grunt.
I have around $10k to spend, can anyone offer some assistance as for what to look out for and what mods would need to be done for this purpose. SOme questions are below?
What size wheel and tyre package would be optimal?
Would I need a lift kit either supsension or body or both?
Are mods readily available for the hilux?
What is insurance prices like either before and after you start modding up your rig?
Also, if anyone knows any more please feel free to leave as much info as possible as you can never get enough info.
Thanks everyone in advance.
Cheers
Zam
Reply By: bruce.h - Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 15:32
Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 15:32
zam
take breath then get on the phone & book a 4wd training course alot of the questions you have about 4wd's will be answered by getting to know what they are & how to operate them, even a very basic 4wd will get you out there, add the expencive accesories as you decide & identifie just what they are & how often you will use them the 4wd industry has no more morals than any other retail industry & will quite happily take thousands of your hard urned $$ for lots of accessories that you may never use or use rarely start slow & work your way up to the
well kitted out rig becuace once you add all this crap on if you decide to change vehicles not all the add ons will transfer over & resale prices for these items is
well below what you will pay especialy if they are left on the vehicle, just rember that all the tracks we enjoy today were driven through useing basic no extras vehicles like series 1 landrovers & bj 40 ect.but if you do decide to continue with the extras make list of what you wish to do to the vehcle & be specific then fax it to your insurance company & ask for in writing their policy on the mods you intend to do becauce they will impact on your insurance both in cost & availabilty costing of insurance will depend on many differant facters such as age location driving history & accesories best option is
shop around ,as to availabilty of mods for a hilux there are lots & lots you can add on
hope this helps
Regards bruce
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 15:53
Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 15:53
Firstly. If your in Qld, you cant do much to your car.
www.outerlimits4x4.com is your place for what mods, etc. Tony Robbo runs 37 Baja Claws on his.
or
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/download.php?id=4231 for another option
www.snakeracing.com.au is your place for the bits
www.tcis.com.au is for the insurance, but once you start doing mods, wave bye bye to insurance, they are clamping down.
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Follow Up By: zam045 - Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 16:24
Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 16:24
yeah, I know that the insurance companies are cracking down on mods, at the mo I drive a VN commodore modded up, you know lower
suspension, bigger wheels, extractors etc.
Looks like I am going to have the same problems with a 4x4 as a roadie.
Cheers
Zam
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 16:49
Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 16:49
CGU did pretty much ANY mods uptil Feb this year, except Chev Engines, they are a no go.
Now CGU dont want to do 4wd's and not many will insure for lots of mods.. there was one that didnt want to do aftermarket springs on a 4wd.. Thats how tight ....
Check EVERYTHING with engineers BEFORE you think of modding....
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Follow Up By: zam045 - Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 16:56
Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 16:56
It is really getting pathetic in some cases, a couple of insurance companies were not going to insure me because I had tinted windows.
OOOOOOOOHHHHHH, those tinted windows effect performance in such a big way.
Ah
well, thanks for that, will just have to get quotes and
check beforing purchasing or start modding.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, May 08, 2003 at 00:05
Thursday, May 08, 2003 at 00:05
Zam thats nothing
one bloke at our club meet tonight told RACV wouldnt insure with BFG MT's OR .. not and .. just or Aftermarket
suspension...
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Reply By: Rusty - Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 16:43
Wednesday, May 07, 2003 at 16:43
Until you actually start looking around where ever you are and see what's out there it's hard to know what you can get. The 2nd hand car market is very fickle and you will just have to look and see what 10k can by you before you even comtemplate extras.
Never know your luck you may pick up a lux fully kitted for what you want to pay. Or you may not so get out there and have a good look around before you part with your hard earned bucks.
Regards
Rusty
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Reply By: Member - Martyn- Thursday, May 08, 2003 at 12:28
Thursday, May 08, 2003 at 12:28
Zam045,
Again this is just an opinion but when I purchase a 4X4 and like many others on this page I've bought a few. Personally I would by the straightest car you can for your money up front with the minimum number of extras except for the occasional bullbar which are near enough standard anyway and build from there, I've bought 4X4's that have got the gear on and always found that the gear is there for a reason so the car stands a better chance of being through the wringer, plus if the fourby has a lot of electrical gear fitted you may
well be purchasing another persons problems, lights without relays, bits that don't work when going over corragations etc
I would spend my 10k on a fourby that has very little on it, get the insurance sorted get the rego paid for 12 months and have some fun up front as mentioned before, get yourself a good snatch strap a couple of shackles and go out with a 4WD club and get stuck, it's great funKeep the shiny side up
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