OT dog trap design
Submitted: Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 20:11
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Member - Geoff C (QLD)
I have a bush block out the back of Millmerran (280 acres) which has got a large wild dog (not dingos) problem. What I need is a cage type trap. I have no problem with the cage but have not been able to come up with a method to set off the trap and have the flap lock when it comes down. I don't like hurting dogs (I have two) but all my tame goannas have disappeared and I no longer see any wallabies. We hear the dogs barking all night and see their tracks. My nearest neighbour is over a km away so they have to be wild.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, Geoff
Reply By: Nick R (VIC) - Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 21:31
Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 21:31
I reckon they'd take a "fox Off" bait but if you were persisting with the trap you could attach a piece of meat to a wire which when pulled pulls a small latch with the door falling or swinging shut.
I'd hold the
gate open for a night or 2 with the bait not attached so they got used to the trap, then attach the bait so they trigger the
gate as soon as they move the bait.
We have had a pig problem here, the neighbour build a trap. He didn't do the free feed thing and still got 5 in the first night, I think your feral dogs might be smarter.
NickR
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 09:02
Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 09:02
Geez, Nick, nothing much takes "Fox off" let alone foxes. Thats the animal welfare approach.
Remember one of the Greens candidates at the last state election wanted people to tame the wild dogs. Not an easy situation Geoff.
Here are the padded leg traps
Litte Ripper Geoff and it's apparent there are the ferocious ones available too.
Sherman
Then these of the type you are talking of I think
Here folded of course
Bigger dog traps
I see the address is
Gold Coast but that may be a long way from you to get a look
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Follow Up By: Member - Geoff C (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 10:28
Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 10:28
Could you mm a drawing of the pig trap, that might be the way to go.
Thanks, Geoff
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Reply By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 22:28
Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 22:28
Geoff
Trapping a wild dog is not easy. Their cunning, and generally won't go near anything as obvious as a cage that's contaminated by human odour (unless very hungry).
Get yourself a "Jake Trap" and a bottle of dog bleep .
What you do with the dog after that is your choice. In my case, trapped dogs have always been shot.
Regards
Kim
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Reply By: Motherhen - Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 22:32
Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 22:32
Our neighbour made a fox trap after loosing all his piglets - game fox - i wouldn't get in with a sow with piglets to protect! He never got the rogue fox. It is now in my chook yard, overgrown with grass because it didn't work - the little devils were too cunning to take the bait. The door release was triggered when the bait tied to a hook was pulled. If you member message me your email address i can send you a rough sketch - however as far as i know it has never caught a fox, so i don't know if it would fool a wild dog.
A few years ago our local
ranger had a couple of traps and occasionally caught a troublesome dog in the night - ask your council
ranger if he lends traps. Your local Agriculture Department, agricultural protection or bio security office or whatever yours is called also may help.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 23:08
Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 23:08
Motherhen
The occasional visit by a
Ranger won't acheive anything. Beleive me.
Nor will the random placing of a cage by the property owner.
Wild dogs are too smart for that. Geoff will need to look for entry signs around the
farm, which could be as easy as watching his dogs sniffing along a fence line or bleep on vegitation close to uncleared property
These are the signs I'd be looking for.
Regards
Kim
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Follow Up By: Member - Geoff C (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 10:33
Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 10:33
Unfortunately its not a
farm, only a bush block so no fence, they can get in anywhere.
Geoff
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 15:50
Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 15:50
Best solution is a keen hunter with a gun. Really more humane too. Our experience as above with foxes is that they do not go into a trap regardless of precautions so no human smell on cage or bait, or placement of trap in their path. Feral dogs would be as cunning. Good luck.
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Reply By: ferris - Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 23:40
Friday, Aug 31, 2007 at 23:40
Geoff, I can understand your sentiment for not wanting to hurt the dogs - that's fair enough, but have you thought what you are going to do with them once caught. Wild dogs can't be relocated, tamed, or even handled safely. If you are planning on calling the
ranger, then you're just shifting the responsibility to somebody else. I'm not having a go at you, but sooner or later somebody is going to have to destroy the dogs, and the most common method is shooting. As Pres Bush (the first one) said in response to a question about bulldozing Iraqi soldiers alive, "there is no nice way to kill a human being" The same applies to a wild dog. I guess the message I'm trying to convey, is that sometimes we have to do the dirty work ourselves, or if you don't possess the skills or equipment, maybe you need to look at getting somebody to come in and trap, bait or shoot the dogs professionally. Incidentally I have seen a pack of so-called wild dogs that were traced back to a
farm almost 10 k's away. Maybe your local Dept. Primary Industries can provide advice. 1080 poison is used by many farmers with dog problems, as shooting and trapping them can be quite difficult, because they are so damned cunning. I can understand you not wanting to harm the dogs, but unfortunately this approach does not work. Good luck with it and I hope you get more goannas and wallabies coming back soon.
Cheers Ferris.
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Follow Up By: Member - Geoff C (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 10:27
Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 10:27
I'm prepared to shoot them but I'd like to make sure they are wild dogs and not just somebody's pet first. I figure a warning to the owners first.
Geoff
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Reply By: Hairy - Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 02:47
Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 02:47
Gday,
Think like a dog, take away what hes after or take him away!
Have you ever used snares? Crule if your not there but dont set one if your not prepared to waiit.
Otherwise get someone else to do it.
Like Kim said look for their entry point.
And you can make a trap but it will take some work and a bit of time.
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Big Mke (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 09:49
Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 09:49
We have a bad wild dog problem a we were once sheep country backing onto a national park. Cross bred collies / dingoes, and they are big dogs. Our neighbours all have an understanding that all lock their dogs up at night as any dog seen wandering at night is fair game.
A professional shooter told me once of an idea of instead of stalking the dogs, get the dogs to come to you. Tie a kid, (a goat variety) to a stake in a
clearing and wait in a hide. The noise an commotion will soon alert any dogs around. A professional will get the dog before the kid is harmed.
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Reply By: Member - 'Lucy' - Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 14:15
Saturday, Sep 01, 2007 at 14:15
Think like the male human - what attracts him the most (In most cases that is).
A sensational looking, smelling, appealing and available
young lady.
Get the right
young lady dog who is pumping out those male attracting pheremones and I bet you get some willing 'suitors'
Then its up to you how you sort the 'suitable' from the unsuitable' that arrive on her door step so to speak.
I know how I would handle a feral, runny nosed, drooling, multicoloured hair style, smelly, green toothed piece of chit wanting to see my daughter
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