Chev V8 Conversion
Submitted: Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 12:35
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wkendwar
Hi All
Im thinking about putting in the 6.5ltr chev V8 into my 1985 2h landcruiser. I have heard alot of good things about these engines but has any one heard anything bad. Im thinking about getting it done at Linquip in bris, has any one heard anything about these guys? they seem quite good.
Also just after people opinions on this conversion or do you have any alternitives to this conversion. The reason behind this is my 2h had got a bad knock and just hasnt got the power i need for what i do ie long kms towing a boat ect for fishing trips. I have spent alot of money on this car already so thats why id prefer to keep it.
Thanks
Reply By: ross - Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 13:03
Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 13:03
The bad things are the noise and the cost of the conversion if you cant do it yourself.
I would look around for a 12HT turbo landcruiser diesel which will be a virtual drop in for your 60.
They are becoming harder to get but with patience,they pop up.
Or look around for a rebuilt/used 2H . I see a lot of rebuilt 2H that have outlasted their bodies going cheap.
I would get one and add a low boost turbo .
Those 2 options would still be half the cost of the chev diesel conversion
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Reply By: Mick - Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 13:19
Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 13:19
The bad things will be the extra weight, the extra fuel consumption, the constant refuelling from the decreased range. Can't think of one good reason to put in a big petrol guzzler as opposed to changing to diesel. There is not one large truck using petrol and 4wds are going the same way. Rust in the bodywork is another reason to spend your money on a modern vehicle - I'm afraid you're on the way to creating a money pit. I had a 79 cruiser long long ago and the best move I ever made was selling it. I know yours is a different model but I have noticed an increasing number of old cruisers going the way
mine went.
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Follow Up By: Kev M (QLD Bound) - Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 13:27
Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 13:27
A 6.5l Chev V8 is a diesel motor. Check either Roachie or Bilbos rig profile for more info.
Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 16:58
Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 16:58
G'day Mick,
Like Kev says, the 6.5 V8 Chev IS a diesel. I sold my GU with the 4.2TD to replace it with the dual cab converted GU Patrol with the 6.5 Chev Diesel (which also has LPG injenction) and the fuel economy is marginally BETTER than the 4.2TD was....... AND it is about 500 kg heavier. The additional weight has nothing to do with the motor (the 6.5 and the 4.2 are pretty close to being the same weight as each other). No, the extra weight in this truck is all to do with the steel tray and steel box and dual 35" spare tyres etc.
The noise factor is one which needs to be considered. I prefer to think of it as "music" rather than "noise"....and as far as I'm concerned the 6.5 isn't all that much noisier on the road, than the 4.2 was. It's when it's idling that it sounds quite loud.
I certainly have no regrets about having bought my rig. Note,
mine was converted back in late 2000; the original owner bought it new as a 4.2TD and had the motor swap done immediately as
well as the cut'n'shut. Then he had the LPG added in April 2001.
Mine has done about 200,000klm so far and (touch wood) runs very sweet. However, the one downside is that it is still a bit sluggish going up steep hills once momentum is spent; that is when a turbo would be good to have.
Cheers
Roachie
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Reply By: wkendwar - Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 13:41
Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 13:41
Sorry for any confusion people but the Chev V8 6.5ltr is a diesel engine
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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 13:59
Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 13:59
I pressume you are in SEQ somewhere so it may be worth chasing up a bloke who does these conversions in Crows Nest/Esk. I remember looking into the same conversion for my GU and he was by far the cheapest but still with good reputation. I don't have his name or number anymore. Linquip do have a good reputation but tend to be a little on the dear side, but with experience and knowledge comes the price tag. On Track 4wd down at Springwood do a fair bit of big cube modifications to 4b's also so you may want to talk with them to get other options and opinions.
For my opinion, I think the 6.5 is OK but not exciting to drive but it depends on what you want and how you drive, my little 4.2 eats the 6.5's I have driven at any revs over 1600. If you turbo the 6.5 they are reknowned for running warm/hot but apart from that I have not heard of any other downsides (cost excluded of course!!!).
Good luck with it and keep us updated which ever way you go.
Regards, Trevor.
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Follow Up By: Pezza (Bris) - Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 17:22
Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 17:22
Trevor puts it far nicer than I would have, lol.
Just one thing to add, Brett down at On Track is probably not the best person to speak to about advice on the 6.5, he's had 2 customers sell their rigs after converting to one and a third bring it back to put the 4.2 turbo'd and intercooled Nissan diesel back in, they didn't think much of the 6.5 at all, and Brett is of the opinion that they make good boat anchors.
That is not to say that he won't do a bloody good job with the conversion if you decide to go ahead with it, just be prepared for him to try and talk you out of it.
My opinion, for what it's worth, after having driven 4 of them in different configerations, all non turbo'd, and one turbo version in a Suburban, stick to the 12H.
Cheers
Pezza
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Reply By: Member - Karl - Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 14:00
Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 14:00
People that I have spoken too who have them - love them and only one had an issue. It was a GU Patrol that had a heating issue that took sometime to sort out.
If I could afford it, I would get one for my 91 80 Series.
Karl
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 14:59
Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 14:59
Re this outfit....probably the same product and service as......
http://www.brunswickdiesels.com.au/new/technical.php
Even the 6.5 litre unit seems to have less power and torque than the current 4.2 litre IHDFTE (150kw / 430nm).
Not saying they aren't a good idea, but could a recon later/lighter toyo do the job ?
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Reply By: Rock Ape - Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 15:09
Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 15:09
Have one in an 89 troopcarrier, it is no noiser than the 2h inside the cab, fuel consumption is slightly less tan the 2h as long as you keep it around 2200 to 2300 revs. Consumption ranges from 12l/100 to 15l/100 fully loaded.
Had an overheating problem at first, cured that with the 79series radiator.
Mine was done by Linquip and I have had no problem with them.
Lindsay has always been very helpfull, even sent up a couple of injector blank hoses for nix, said don't worry about it, they cost stuff all.
Hope this helps
The cost is the big drawback, a recond 12ht would be a good choice
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Reply By: madfisher - Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 18:33
Monday, Sep 10, 2007 at 18:33
Even a standard 1hz will go a lot better than a 2h especially in a 60 series as they are less than 2000kg, and cost bugger all compared to a chev. Just something to think about
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: bobby 6 - Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:21
Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:21
speaking of 12hts,there is a complete one on ebay at the moment,still in car,its in qld,ive got one in a hj61,put that in and you wont be looking for anymore power.great motor.
cheers
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Reply By: mechpete - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 00:44
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 00:44
wkendwar,
from several years of experience with those 6.5lt don,t touch them ,they have a heap of problems ,
cost us a fortune to keep them on the road as ambulances in Rural
Ambulance Vic
mechpete.
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