GU Patrol

Submitted: Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 09:41
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Looking to up grade to a GU patrol 2.8TD ( Don't ask what from ) Was wondering if there is any specific I should be looking out for? I heard of 5th gear probs but is there anything else?Any feedback good or bad would be good.
Thanks
AK
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Reply By: desert - Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 14:40

Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 14:40
The 2.8 TD is considered underpowered for the weight of the thing. It is marginal for towing. However, the biggest drawback is the light-duty gearbox which is from the ZX sedans and is not rugged enough for heavy towing, eg, large vans, horse floats etc. OK for the occassional 6x4. The engine does respond well to the power upgrades marketed by some turbo outlets. However, when asked to work hard they can consume as much fuel as it's larger engined cousin.
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Follow Up By: Big John (QLD) - Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 15:58

Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 15:58
I drive a 100 series TD, though I supply one of my managers with a 2.8 TD and my son just sold just sold his to go to a new Navara 3 lt TD twin cab. The 2.8 TD is a great value for money car $10,000 less than a 3lt TD with the same k's and conditions. As long as you don't want to tow to much (Though my son towed my 21' half cab every so often) they are a good big wagon. The only major repairs to be done on my sons car was a clutch at 185,000km and my managers car has 100,000km and had nothing but regular services. Peter Iken of Cape York Connections drove his to Cape York 5 time a year for 4 years and it was still going ( with a few rattles) when he sold It. Eric for Cape York Connections could give you more info regarding Peter Ikens 2.8 TD. The only other thing is first gear low range is also a little high for the power. They also tell me if you fit a Dtronics chip $1500.00 they are as good as a 3 lt.
regargs John
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Follow Up By: Michael - Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 16:58

Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 16:58
Hi Desert, You may know this ,Do the 4.2 and the 3.0L , share the same gearbox? Thanks Michael.
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Reply By: sean - Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 18:57

Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 18:57
The 3.0 and 4.2 have the same gearbox. The only driveline difference is different diff ratios


Sean

3.0L Owner
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Follow Up By: Michael - Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 20:52

Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 20:52
Thanx Sean
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Reply By: Member - Cocka - Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 21:45

Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 21:45
AK I've just gotta ask "What from" or more correctly "from what"Carpe Diem
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Follow Up By: AK - Monday, May 19, 2003 at 18:33

Monday, May 19, 2003 at 18:33
Upgrading from a Suzuki Grand Vitara, you would be surprised where this little car can go, but your always pushing it to near its limits. So we thought if we are going to shell out the big $ for a larger more rugged 4x4 we may as well do it properly and get a patrol or cruiser.
Cheers
AK
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Reply By: colin - Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 21:46

Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 21:46
I think you might find the 3ltr doesnt have the same box as the 4.2, its the same as the 2.8ltr with the same diff ratios. The 4.2 has never had problems with 5th gear as its a bigger and stronger box. Col
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Follow Up By: patroler - Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 22:02

Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 22:02
Colin
The 4.2 and 3lt both share the same box and the 4.2 had problems with 5th. the same as the 3lt .They have both had this problem rectified in the series 3. Robert
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Follow Up By: sean - Monday, May 19, 2003 at 11:20

Monday, May 19, 2003 at 11:20
Colin

there have been previous posts on this forum with 5th gear failures on 4.2's.

The 3 litre box is the same as the the 4.2 and they have both been prone to the same sporadic 5th gear failure that is also well reported on this forum. There have been alot more 5th gear failures with the 3 litre but thats probably becuase there are alot more of them out there.

The gearbox ratios with the 3 and 4.2 are also identical. It is also the same box in the 4.8. Of the manuals, the 4.2 has different diff ratios and the 3.0 and 4.8 have the same diff ratios. I suspect the 4.2 has longer legs to help with emmisions as the 3.9 diffs on the 4.2 are not as good off road.

Sean

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Reply By: desert - Tuesday, May 20, 2003 at 08:05

Tuesday, May 20, 2003 at 08:05
Not quite right, Sean. Gearboxes are the same, even the ratio's are the same, except for the Leaf-sprung cab-chassis. However, diff ratio's are a dogs breakfast. 3.0 has a 4.375 arse end, the 4.2 has either 3.9 or 4.1 depending if we are including the cab-chassis, and the 4.8 litre have the 3.9 arse.
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