winch recovery with snatch strap
Submitted: Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 19:35
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barney rubble
Gday all Gave the winch a roll out today just too keep it moving and although very pleased with plasma rope length
got to thinking and wondered if req could a snatch strap be used as a winch extension or tree trunk protector if req and would this render snatch stap u/s my guess is yep this would stuff the snatch stap but would the strap of reasonable qaulity handle this sort of use Cheers
Barn
Reply By: Scubaroo - Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 20:23
Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 20:23
I don't think you would want to use a snatch strap as a winch extension - apart from the fact most if not all manufacturers strongly recommend against it, the winch would start stretching the snap strap instead of moving the vehicle, and there's a very real risk that when the vehicle does move, it's snatched instead, and leaps forward unpredictably. Recovery should be a controlled exercise - using a snatch strap is just introducing an unpredictable variable into the winching operation.
A dedicated 30m winch strap is only about $100 from memory - cheap insurance.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (Qld) - Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 20:59
Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 20:59
Scubaroo
I would agree 100% with your answer to Fred's workmate.
As for extension straps I think in my ARB recovery box of tricks I would have 3x30m 2x20m 1x5m chain, tree trunk protector , and the chances are the object I would need to connect to will be 2m out of reach.
Doug
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncs - Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 19:10
Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 19:10
You are spot on Doug and I have a friend who says that if you got another 2m of strap then the anchor point would move further away.
Oh his name is Murphy. You may have met him.
Duncs
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Reply By: Philip A - Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 20:25
Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 20:25
AFAIK, as long as you kept within the load limit of the strap it is OK.
BUT they are so elastic that you would end up losing quite a bit of pulling power of the winch as the snatch strap would stretch so much that you may end up with a few winds on the drum.
And you would also lose length of pull, but this is rarely important.
Regards Philip A
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Reply By: obee - Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 21:12
Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 21:12
If thats all you have I dont see a problem. Straps should take a lot more than the vehicle weighs and you are only puling horizontally with a bit of help from the wheels. Often it only takes a little extra help to get a vehicle moving out of a bog. I once did it with the equivilent of a couple of truckie hitches on an old craypot rope. I shudder to think of the amount of energy going into a strap when a two tonne plus vehicle hits the strap at speed. In comparison, I think the winch is benign. If the winch got to the point where it broke or damaged the strap, you would want to start looking for the bulldozer pulling you from the opposite direction.
Better to keep the strap in prime condition, however, and use something else.
Please dont rely on my advise however, and use your own judgement. I dont want you calling me from your hospital bed because you misread what I am saying. You got a better chance getting out of a bog with a warranty from Nissan than suing me in court.
I have been known to be wrong.
All the best,
george w bush
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Reply By: Willem - Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 09:22
Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 09:22
Recently I had to use all means to get a mates ute extracted from a serious bog.
We connected everything we had in our possession.
One Brawn winch and cable
Two snatch straps
One Tirfor with cable fully extended
One Tree trunk protector
A variety of Bow shackles and D-shackles.
All equipment was subemerged in muddy water!
It seemed to work very
well as the extended straps and cables worked together to glide the ute out of trouble.
All hands stood
well clear just incase of a failure somewhere along the line.
In an emergency I would use a snatch strap but not as a rule.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Kumunara (NT) - Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 10:01
Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 10:01
Willem
Good advice about the stay
well clear.
I would hate to see what the result would be if a snatch strap gave way when being used on a winch.
Tjilpi
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Follow Up By: Willem - Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 10:11
Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 10:11
Tjilpi
Go and have a read in my website below. Click on 4x4 and then scroll to the bottom of the page where the stories are listed. Click on 'A Close encounter with a Bow Shackle'
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 14:15
Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 14:15
Tjilpi, doesn't matter if you are using a winch or not.
Any strap used on a recovery operation has stored energy and is potentially lethal.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 15:10
Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 15:10
We all seem to be worried about the snatch letting go its probably the highest rated thing in the back of the car, with that long linkage anything letting go would be interesting,
worth seeing as long as it was someone else car hehehehe
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Reply By: me2@neuralfibre.com - Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 18:40
Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 18:40
You would be nuts. The snatch strap stores the winch energy. If anything fails, it all gets released in abig hurry and people die. You want non strenth that way there is minimal stored knietic energy in the event of failure. The risk is not the strap snapping, but something else, anything else, and the strap releasing it's energy into whatever lump of steel it's still attached to.
300km/hr+ guaranteed with a few kg
Paul
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