Complaint about 100 series saggy arse

Hey Mike - IT'S NOT YOU!!
This is a well known phenomenon. 100's (Tojo's in general) are galloping towards urban domestication these days. I gotta have one for the tow weight, but the Nissan is still by far the better beast for the really serious stuff.
If you want to have a look at the ioo Safari vs Rangie TDI comparo in the 4wd Monthly #52 (April 2003) the 100 does the same thing with camper as you describe
Griff

Yep, mate, Landcruisers are going soft!! There is no doubt about it! All Toyota cares about now is making a soft , lowriding, oversized, overpriced urban status symbol!! Gone are the days of the Toyota making 4x4's that can actually be used offroad without ripping off bumpers, bashing sumps and steering gear, etc, etc. The switch to IFS is just the final nail in the coffin for Landcruiser. But, hey, I would never have bought a Cruiser anyway, because NISSAN has always made better, more reliable, more capeable 4wd's. And it now appears that they are definitley the ONLY choice when looking for a bush cpeable fourby!

C'mon, you Cruiser faithfulls, admit it, Tojo's arn't what they used to be!!

Tristjo.

Michael,
Yep it's true. I own one of them and was constantly getting flashed with two passengers in the back. ARB fitted progressive springs to the back, maintained the same unladen height, and now I don't get flashed.

Yes, new LC's are "soft" but it doesn't take much to harden them up. For real bush bashing you can't beat a HJ60 or its Nissan equivalent but having driven the new Patrols and LC's I think they are after the same market and are "soft". Why the LC? More power and torque.

Mal T

hope my x wife dosnt read this forum.
thats the reason i used to call her land cruiser
looking foward to september(landcruiser park/fraser island)

Inferior 4wd people and plan cars take note. It is incumbent upon you to raise the suspension of your chariots to allow for the design feature of Toyos.This way you can be high above the magnificent lighting of this exceptional conveyance I personally have fitted poly bags to allow for the extra 5 tonnes of gear the Tojo can take with a marginal droop.

The thing I don't like about the Nissans is their seating. You sit so low to the floor. It makes a big 4wd seem even bigger. The back seats are just as bad. Its been a problem for years. The 4wd mags have said the same. I am 6ft and I even find it hard to look over the hood when out in the bush. The back seat passenger's floor is ridiculous how it drops away near the door. When you watch the nissan drivers driving around town they all seem like midgets. Other than this it is a great looking 4wd and a lot cheaper than the cruiser.
In the latest Overlander they were saying the latest 4.2 TD was not what they wished it could have been. They were hoping for something more refined, say a 4.5 TD as refind as their 3.oL TD. Maybe this will come out in their new model.
At the conclusion to the comparison between the Td cruiser and the 4.2 TD nissan they said that as good as the cruiser is, it is just isn't $10,000 better than the nissan.