idler shaft 60 series transfer case
Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 23:21
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brummie pete
hi ,i have a problem at the back of my transfer case where the idler shaft is situated ,it is weeping a slight amount of oil and i would like to replace the O-ring at the back of the shaft .Is it possible to to replace the o-ring with starting to dissasemble the transfer case etc .Thanks for your help.
Reply By: traveller2 - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:09
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:09
In a word no, but you can do it in the truck.
You will have to drain the oil from the transfer and gearbox (not sure but some Tojo idlers when removed allowed the gearbox oil to come out BTDT).
Remove the rear tailshaft, out put flange and nut and then you will be able to remove the rear half of the transfer case and replace the O ring. Be careful on taking the back half off as quite often the idler will come with it.
Alternatively if it is only a very slight weep drain the oil and then clean around the end of the idler with carby cleaner, acetone etc and use Clag or similar to seal it externally.
Usually if the idler is starting to weep it is a
sign of wear and you might be up for a few new bits.
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Follow Up By: brummie pete - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 18:39
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 18:39
Thanks traveller ,i might have to do that as a temporary measure .She has done 400000 so she is probably up for an overhaul ,but i may take my chances and wait untilll the clutch needs doing .Its not leaking a lot ,its more of a weep .
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Follow Up By: brummie pete - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 18:49
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 18:49
Hi traveller ,if i decided to pull the back of the transfer case off is it only the idler arm i have to watch out for when pulling the cover off or is there any other bits that might fall all over the driveway once the innards are exposed .Thanks
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Follow Up By: brummie pete - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 18:51
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 18:51
sorry idler shaft not arm
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Follow Up By: traveller2 - Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 08:18
Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 08:18
Usually the stuff will stay on the main output shaft as it is firmly anchored into the front output, but you never know ;-)
The main input shaft everything is held on by
the nut at the end so you don't have to worry about it.
Just the idler and its thrust washers and all those rollers.
What I used to do was lever the back of the case back a bit and then tap the idler forward into the front of the case, the actual shaft is only held by that tab on the outside at the back and an O ring in the case at both ends.
If it was
mine and with that many k's and no horrible noises I'd just try gooing it first. Because I suspect that if it hasn't been ever rebuilt most of the innards will be buggered anyway and you will be doing a full rebuild.
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Follow Up By: brummie pete - Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 20:38
Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 20:38
thanks Traveller ,i think i will have ago at gooing it first as i get no trouble with the truck at all as im very regular with my oil changes on the gearboxand transfer case and she changes gear very
well .
Im not really in the mood to start stripping the whole lot down untill such time i can keep her off the road for a while ,so i could take my time rebuilding the box and replacing the clutch etc .Thanks for your advice ,i have got some carby cleaner and some decent clag but would i have to drain the oil or would reversing the truck up a set of ramps throwing the oil forward of the back of the shaft do ?
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Follow Up By: traveller2 - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 08:16
Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 08:16
As long as the oil level is below the idler level should be ok. Even though it is 90 grade it will seep especially if warm.
I did what you are going to do on avintage car gearbox a while back and we drained it to be sure and then gave it abelt with compressed air around the shaft to push the oil back inside, then cleaned it with acetone and then put the clag on, worked
well so far no more oil leak.
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Follow Up By: brummie pete - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 16:35
Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 16:35
well i have clagged it up now i just hope it works ,thanks traveller
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Reply By: In Good Time - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 11:22
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 11:22
Brummie Pete
O-rings can ware or go hard with age. If the transfer box does not have huge milage then the rear O-ring of the idler shaft can be replaced with out dismantling. Purchase the correct O-ring (Toyota) clean around shaft, remove retaining locking tab on the back of the transfer box that holds the idler shaft in. Very carefully ease the idler shaft out just enough to see the O-ring, remove old one and install new, carefully slide shaft back into box, may need to gently tap home. Be "very" carefull not to pull the shaft out to far or you will be have to dismantle the transfer box to reinstate thrust washers. If the vehicle has very high milage and the shaft has never been replaced I would recomment it be overhauled.
Its easer to rebuild in the shed before it fails than out in the sticks.
Pete.
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Follow Up By: brummie pete - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 18:46
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 18:46
Thanks In Good Time ,it sounds like i havent got much room for error and knowing my luck the thrust washers will come off .
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