Snorkels........................................................
Submitted: Monday, May 26, 2003 at 21:24
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Voxson (Adelaide)
A lot of people say that one of the reasons they buy a
snorkel is to keep the dust intake down for their air filter. Everytime i have seen dust kicked up by anyone it seems to ploom up high into the sky like the massive cloud that it is. It starts at the ground and can be as high as multi story buildings. How is it that we can state something like " it helps the dust intake stay to a minimum"??.....
I have noticed that a standard GQ intake is behind a few objects but yet the
snorkel is first in line for that yummy mouthful of engine destroying grit....
Can that 14 inches of unprotected extra height be inline with some sort of clean air stream??.....
The tall, short bald guy with long hair makes as much sense....
Please explain????????/_____________________________________________
Countin the days till July 5th. *
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Reply By: Slammin - Monday, May 26, 2003 at 23:17
Monday, May 26, 2003 at 23:17
If you are in a convoy or overtaking etc I do agree with you BUT when travelling alone the dirty air in the engine bay or as in my case the side panel of the Hilux it does make a huge difference.
I do a majority of dirt and bulldust and replace the air filter @ 50 000K (rec 100,000) regardless. At the 10,000
services always
check airfilter and usually its just fine but pre
snorkel it was always filthy and really needed to be cleaned every 5 000.
I only purchased the
snorkel because of this and have only used the
snorkel once for a water crossing, It was
well over the bonnet and gee I wish I had a picky.
BTW I never realised that a replacement air filter was @ $60 and a foamy is around the same cost (wash, re-oil and recycle). I can do it the same time I do the motorbikes' and its more effective. Unifilter gets my dosh next time!
get out & dusty
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter [SA] - Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 13:41
Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 13:41
Slammin, it is much easier to wash your standard filter out in water while you are away than to wash out an oily foam filter and re-oil it, just my thoughts anyway.
Cheers Peter
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 14:04
Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 14:04
You do 50,000klms on an airfilter in Bulldust?
Christ!!!!
Mine usually last 1 weekend of
Vic High country (
well lately with the drought.)!!!! Thats not running a Precleaner.
With the Unifilter, YMMV but I have 4 that were given to me! And I dont think they are that much better... Quality doesnt seem as good as the bike ones, could be the size of filter and motor maybe?
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Follow Up By: Slammin - Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 23:49
Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 23:49
Pre-
snorkel we had to air gun it every trip to town and back, good wash in water at 5000 replace at 10000, post-
snorkel you give it the air gun and no
sign of dust at all. The only dust we drive thru is the very rare oncoming. And thats no bulldust! We found the
snorkel one of the best additions so far.
We were getting insects down the
snorkel but put some fly screen at the mouth and rarely see some mashed bits when cleaning.
To save hassles when travelling I figure to carry a spare pre-oiled and fit at destination when servcing if need be, I can't really see it being necassary though. But same as on bike I guess, if you've gotta wash one you might as
well wash the lot.
Ps how is the
vic high country post bushfires, lots of bike tours on stand by.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 26, 2003 at 23:36
Monday, May 26, 2003 at 23:36
If dust is that much of a problem you should drop back anyway.. If your right up someone elses ring, then you will get heaps of dust...
I know what your saying, but some fools say snorkels are for MORE POWER too.. Its like asking about tires, fridges, this that, everyone has a different reason..
For me its so I dont drink a engine full when going thru a river.. Not for no dust, thats utter bullshiat to me! As you say, dust rises, then hangs in the air. But if you drop back 20seconds+ from the car in front depending on the dust, then you should get clean air again..
Before people say to use the
snorkel socks, they kill power, specially on Turbo cars.
YMMV
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Follow Up By: Slammin - Monday, May 26, 2003 at 23:52
Monday, May 26, 2003 at 23:52
Out of interest what is a
snorkel sock? sounds like a franger!
Also if you are following that close you'll end up in a head on. And we've had enough in the NT already and they'll put in more bloody speed restrictions because of dumb tourists.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 00:04
Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 00:04
Basically something you jam in the
snorkel to stop crap gettin thru! Also stops air getting thru!
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Follow Up By: Kev - (Cairns,QLD) - Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 08:56
Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 08:56
Yes you have to be carefull of a head ons but if its a convoy then the first guy lets every one know behind via UHF that a car is coming.
Best to stay back away from the thick dust anyway.
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Follow Up By: Kev - (Cairns,QLD) - Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 09:03
Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 09:03
Hey Truckster,
You say the sock is no good, have you tried it or know someone who has ?
Is it realy that bad ?
Reason for asking is i was going to order one yesterday to try it out but forgot. The Unifilter guys say you loose 1% fuel economy but being sales reps its probebly more than that.
Its only $45 for three so i was going to give it a shot.
If they are no good what about the Finer filter snorkle head cover ?
Kev.
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Follow Up By: Dozer - Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 10:35
Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 10:35
Ive heard they get lost in the
snorkel and when they get too dirty the whole show has to come off to retrieve it.
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 13:59
Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 13:59
Kev..
Yea know a few that used them on a Simpson trip on 3.0 GU's and 1 TD42 GQ from our club..
They work to a point, but do shag fuel economy. The blokes that did the Simpson, most actually tossed theirs!
Well 2 of 5 cars did..
Do people have that much problem with normal paper air filters??
Mine work
well! but then again I get
mine at dealer cost, same as oil filters.
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Follow Up By: Member - Martyn (WA) - Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 14:23
Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 14:23
Truckster,
Keep the shiny side up
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Follow Up By: Member - Martyn (WA) - Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 14:23
Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 14:23
Truckster,
Keep the shiny side up
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Follow Up By: Member - Martyn (WA) - Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 14:23
Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 14:23
Truckster,
Keep the shiny side up
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Follow Up By: Member - Martyn (WA) - Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 14:23
Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 14:23
Truckster,
Keep the shiny side up
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Follow Up By: Member - Martyn (WA) - Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 14:29
Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 14:29
Truckster,
Sorry did it again, four for the price of one. I run a sock in the snorkle and I'v found that as long as I clean it regularly it's ok, I haven't noticed a noticable drop off in the fuel consumption or the power, mind you with the old 4.2 diesel noticing something I haven't got won't bother me. I still find the performance is better than normally aspirated but not quite at take off speed yet. I can see pros and cons for both. I've heard tales of loosing sock so I've tied a piece of thin fishing line around the rubber ring at the top of the sock just in case i don't fancy taking that little sucker off again. Keep the shiny side up
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 14:34
Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 14:34
Did you sneeze as you hit the mouse button? ;)
Havent heard the losing it down the
snorkel thing, but thats interesting! Another reason NOT to have 1, imagine it being chockablock full of crap and you cant get it out!!!!!!
No thanks...
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 22:00
Tuesday, May 27, 2003 at 22:00
Truckster.....or someone
can you give me a run down on Pre cleaners ???
I have a Safari
snorkel on GU. Where does the precleaner attach and how much $$$
thanks
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