825 x 16 rag tyres ?
Submitted: Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 09:25
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Member - Lionel A (WA)
Howdy all, Many many moons ago [ about 11680 or so] I recall Dunlop producing a 825x16 Triple Traction LT tyre, from memory about 14/16 ply.
It was a solid and robust tyre virtually impossible to destroy. In fact, I once saw a high powered rifle used on one which only left a bruise on the side wall.
Although not the quietest hunk of rubber on the road, once you hit the rough stuff it was a totaly different animal.
Im in the process of putting together a full set of wheels and tyres to be kept soley for remote travel, so was interested to hear if these tyres, or similar brands, are still available.
Many thanks.....Lionel.
Reply By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 09:43
Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 09:43
A bullet really is nothing like the sort of forces applied to tyres in normal use and without information on the type of bullet really doesn't tell you mich at all about the tyre.
That said, rags are pretty indestructable, although depending on where you are heading and the sort of travelling you are doing, a lot of bother.
Probably the most common product in this category these days is the MRF from India... Willem is running them, I know, and so does Mick Hutton and others.
Cheers
Andrew who can't be bothered with split rims.
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Follow Up By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 20:30
Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 20:30
Gidday Andrew,
Back in those days the Enfield 303 was the rifle used. Not being too firearm savy, I just assumed it to be high powered, big boooom...hehehe...
Each to his own as far as splits are concerned, I prefer them personally, for various reasons, which have been outlined in many previous threads.
ps....the bullet had a sharp end to it. Thats all I know.....lol.
Cheers....Lionel.
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Reply By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 11:13
Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 11:13
Lionel I got a set of rag tyres from Kewdale 2nd Hand Tyres. Ended up getting brand new for $140 each. Got Hankook 7.50-16LT 14 Ply. As you say noisy on road and a bit weird to drive on until you get the feel of them but excellent off road and as tough as boots.
Got 6 Hilux split rims thrown in for nicks as
well.
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Reply By: Willem - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:00
Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:00
Lionel
I run 825x16 some time ago on a Landcruiser but had too many punctures. Trouble I had is that I couldn't get 825 tubes and had overinflate 7.50 x16's
Running MRF Super Traction 7.50x16 12 ply rating on the GQ and MRF M77(seconds) 14 ply rating on the trailer. Not expecting more than 40,000km out of therm but they are awesome in the rough and even in sand. They work like a traxcavator...lol
Micj Hutton of Beadell Tours runs MRF Super Milers and he is very happy with them. The Super Milers have a road tread pattern like trucks and are very good in desert country,
Can email you a pic if you like. Forgot how to put them on this
forum.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:07
Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:07
Lionel
Click on mny Members Rig and Profile. I have stuck the MRF in as my second pic.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 20:39
Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 20:39
Thanks Willem,
Yep thats the type of tyre I had in mind.
Im aware of the problem with tube availability. When I worked for Dunlop we used to stock the 825 tubes and punctures werent a problem. We did use the occassional 750 tube but as you say, they stretched to far and sometimes split at the seams. We did get around this problem by using DR16 car tubes but had to vulcanise new brass truck valve stems to them all the time....was a real pain in the ass.
cheers mate.....Lionel.
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Reply By: splits - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:31
Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:31
Lionel, there seems to be plenty available when you look into it. I have just got back into 4x4s after an absence of a few years and have been doing a fair bit of reading ever since. It is amazing what is available that you never see in all the usual advertising.
I have seen a few different brands mentioned in the archives of this site. The Beadell Tours site has some good inforamation on the differences between the steel belt radial, the all steel radial and the bias ply plus their suitability for outback work. They also include a separate section on the different types of MRF tyres.
http://www.beadell.com.au/mrf.htm
Their favourites are one of the bias plys and a couple of all steel radials, all are highway patten and suitable for split rims only.
Brian
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 17:14
Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 17:14
For remote area work you are better off with a highway pattern. Lugs / mud tyres attract stakes and the smoother tread is better in the sand.
I used to work in exploration (no tracks at all) and we used highway pattern cross plies on splits - 12 ply and above. Carried 4 x spares, patches and heaps of tubes as
well.
Don't listen to tyre shops, internet forums or magazines - talk to locals who earn their living out there. That's my 2c worth anyway.
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Follow Up By: splits - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 21:09
Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 21:09
I agree about listening to the locals. I have lived in the bush and the Snowy and the type of tyres they use in the more extreme conditions are not the ones you see in the magazine adds or in city tyre shops.
Even the Goodyear Wrangler TGs that I recently fitted to a second set of split rims for use in wet mountain conditions had to be ordered in by my city dealer. He had never sold any before and you don't see adds for them but they are readily available in the bush.
Brian
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Reply By: Ozshooter - Monday, Nov 26, 2007 at 17:38