Engle Thermal Fuse
Submitted: Tuesday, Dec 04, 2007 at 21:06
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Simon C
Hi.
I have just purchased a 60 litre Engle for Xmas trip, and there is a "thermal" fuse in the cigarette plug. They look like the size of a normal "glass" fuse. Is it important to replace it (if it fails) with the Thermal fuse, or could you just put a 10-20 amp glass fuse in it.
Thanks for your comments
Simon
Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Tuesday, Dec 04, 2007 at 21:23
Tuesday, Dec 04, 2007 at 21:23
Simon,
they are a pain in the peverbial. Get the engel screw-top type plug and do away with the fuse. Just ensure that you have an appropriate sized in line fuse (Be it an inline or blade fuse) in the power supply cable somewhere. The other major thing is to ensure that the power supply cable is "thick" enough. Without knowing your vehicle or power setup (ie - do you have a dual battery system) it's a bit hard to give you specifics. Quite often the standard cig lighter plugs in vehicles aren't designed to deal with the amount of current needed to run the fridge. This creates a lot of heat and the thermal fuse goes every time. Give us some vehicle and power set-up details and you're sure to get a lot of responses from the 12 volt gurus that frequent the
forum.
Cheers. Mick
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Follow Up By: Simon C - Tuesday, Dec 04, 2007 at 21:34
Tuesday, Dec 04, 2007 at 21:34
Thanks Mick.
No dual battery system...(travelling during the day, and can plug in to 240V in the evening). 100 series Turbo Cruiser, Had it at the Auto Sparky last week and they run a big mother $%#@er wire from the engine compartment to the back where I have put an anderson plug , (for other use I need) and they upgraded the wire to the rear cigarette plug (hopeless wire size that Toyota use) with a 30 amp blade fuse and holder
Not ideal, but the application I have, and the yearly use it will get is all I need.
More just concerned on that thermal fuse......
thanks
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Follow Up By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Tuesday, Dec 04, 2007 at 21:43
Tuesday, Dec 04, 2007 at 21:43
No worries Simon, looks like you've got it sorted. I use a 50 litre Waeco and a 40 ltr Engle (as a freezer). Ran the Engle as a freezer (22 ltr 2-zone on top as the fridge)continuosly whilst travelling for 11 months last year with the configuration I've described without a worry. Not familiar with the 60 Litre but it's got to be easier on the juice than the 80. Get the 2 blade engle plug and wire that in beside the rear cig plug in the 100 (brother has just done this with his new 100 series) and do away with the thermal. I'd knock the 30amp in line down to a 20amp tho. Cheers. Mick.
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 10:44
Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 10:44
Simon
Mine broke some time ago and I just replaced with a normal glass one and have not had any dramas.
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Reply By: Member - Mainey (wa) - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 11:36
Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 11:36
Simon,
you post-> ""Had it at the Auto Sparky last week and they run a big mother $%#@er wire from the engine compartment to the back .... and they upgraded the wire to the rear cigarette plug with a 30 amp blade fuse and holder. More just concerned on that thermal fuse""
The thermal fuse should not be any problem with your "upgraded" wiring system, because the weakest link in your fridge wiring system is now the Original Equipment fridge cable and the thermal fuse, and it should be ok because it's an Engel product and must work in all the other fridges made, or they would be recalled and replaced.
If the 30 amp blade fuse is the only fuse in the fridge circuit (other than thermal fuse) it can, if you want, safely be replaced by smaller fuse that's larger than the thermal fuse, it's only a marginal thing and not detrimental or overly important.
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Reply By: trolute - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 17:39
Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 17:39
IMHO manufactorers don't do things for no reason, so if they have used a certain type of fuse, they must have a reason.
I just carry a couple of spare ones in my glove box - I don't see why you wouldn't do likewise
trolute
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Reply By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 18:55
Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 18:55
get rid of it...and just put in a standard glass fuse...as what I was told to do by the servicing here in
Adelaide
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 18:56
Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 18:56
"servicing agent" that should be!
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 10:07
Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 10:07
Thermal fuses need to be mounted near the source of heat - e.g. hair dryers and fan heaters have them to cut out the heater in case the fan fails or is blocked.
There is no point in putting a thermal fuse in a plug - it needs to be near the compressor to be useful.
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 10:10
Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 10:10
If you eliminate the fuse in the plug you need to make sure the fuse in the supply line to the socket is rated less than the thinnest cable in any circuit fed by it.
If the fuse is rated at 20 amps but the wire to the fridge is rated at 10 amps then you have a fire
hazard - your insurance company may disown you in case of fire. An overload of 20 amps would melt the wiring but not blow the fuse.
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