Do I need a turbo timer ?
Submitted: Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 01:05
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Member - BIGDOG G (WA)
Hi all,
What do you blokes think, do I need a Timer on my new 70 series TDV8 ?
I would have thought if I needed one they would have put one on, but we are talking Toyo here, even the ac was an extra.
It will be working hard somedays.....11/2 ton on the back and dragging heavy 22ft van.
would appreciate your opinion's.
Cheers................BIGDOG
Reply By: Peter 2 - Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 06:06
Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 06:06
As long as you are aware that they are 'illegal' and are probably not really necessary on an engine that is severely understressed in standard form, has a water cooled turbo to boot. As long as you are aware that on occasions you need to idle down for a minute or so after say climbing a big
hill and then pulling up at a
lookout or lunch spot there shouldn't be any worry.
I've had one on a petrol
sedan for many years but it is sorely needed as underbonnet and turbo temps are extreme after a hard run, read
orange glow under the car at night after stopping!!!
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 08:48
Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 08:48
Please explain the why " illegal " ,, yes it is illegal to leave a vehicle unatended with the motor running ,but nowhere is a turbo timer illegal ??
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Follow Up By: robak (QLD) - Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 10:50
Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 10:50
That's right it is not "illegal" to have a turbo timer. It is illegal to leave your vehicle while it is running.
Having said that I have an automatic turbo timer, and all I can say is that you don't need one if you always let the engine run for a minute or two so if you plan to turn off the engine immediately after working it hard. i.e. after pulling into a servo off the freeway, or driving through soft sand etc.
After normal "town driving" it only ever needs to idle for 10-15 secs.
Hope that helps.
R
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Follow Up By: Wizard1 - Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 12:00
Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 12:00
So what about the hundreds of semis that are left running until they idle down?
Lets all get a grip. I'm sure you won't have a plod suddenly pull over as you idle down in a
rest area.
Most modern turbos really only need to idle down after being run at high revs/speed ( 80 - 100 kph)for an extended period and come to a stop without gradual slow down. Like highway cruising and just pulling up for a 10 minute rest. So how often would you be doing that?
The average Joe going to work at 60 kph really doesn't need to use a turbo timer.
You can set some of them to just turn off when you turn the ignition off.
We pull up, by the time I've had a stretch, opened the van up to let the MRS in and done a few other things the time would have passed where I can turn the engine off. Being doing that for years without a Turbo Timer.
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Follow Up By: Wizard1 - Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 13:20
Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 13:20
@ $ 260 from ARB, fitted, I think I'll keep doing what I've been doin'
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Follow Up By: Member - Lance S (VIC) - Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 15:12
Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 15:12
Wizard 1, doing 100ks on a freeway is easy on the turbo unless u give a bit of stick every now and then, but at 60ks, if u are doing hard driving ie; lots of hills, giving it the boot and it might only be for 10-15 minutes of driving, but its harder on the turbo then cruising at 100kph, i always idle down my 4by and the work vehicles for 3 minutes.
cheers, Lance
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Reply By: Gronk - Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 09:18
Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 09:18
Had one on my previous 4x4 but none on my current one ??
Think they are a good idea for a bit of peace of mind....can't think of any bad points ( except the price ?? )
Good if you are a bit forgetful, but as said, let it idle for 30secs (or so ) after a hard run !!!
As for illegal, 1/2 the 4x4's on this site are probably illegal ( trye sizes, lifts, etc )..........only thing illegal is leaving the 4x4 running while unattended....
mine normally shut down while I was no further than 50M away......I think the only time you would have a problem is if the 4x4 caught fire while it was unattended and the insurance company could find a reason to decline insurance !!!
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Follow Up By: DIO - Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 10:03
Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 10:03
Insurance company isn't the biggest problem. Enforcement by Police should be your main concern. Expiation Notices also carry Demerit Points. Purpose of such legislation is to reduce/prevent theft of vehicles - particularly delivery (type) configurations. As for TT. shouldn't think there's anything illegal about them except for the fact the vehicle is (maybe) left unattended with engine running (grounds for offence).
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Reply By: Kevndeb - Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 20:31
Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 20:31
I have TT, I can't lock the car/leave it till the motor stops. I have found one problem though, when I drive around with headlights on, I do this regularly because we live in a semi rural area, and had so many near misses, having the headlights on is a safety issue, for me, anyway and I get out of the car, and hang around for the car to run down, I usually forget about the headlights....and they don't switch themselves off, like some fancy cars....and more then once I have forgotten about the headlights....luckily the battery is forgiving....
My TT can be increased to 5 and 7 minutes, at the moment it is 1 minute
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Reply By: Gronk - Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 23:27
Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 23:27
I think most missed the point......any factory turbo will have a sticker somewhere advising to idle the 4x4 after high speed running ( also = heavy towing etc )
All a turbo timer does is do this for you if you're the sort of person who may forget to !!!!!
No engine oil is designed to withstand excessive temps in the turbo housing...hence the idle down signs ( may even be in the handbook )
Only reason manufacturers don't fit them is market demand !!
Not enough people ask for them, so they don't fit them..
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