DiscoII Td5 - How many kms?

Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 18:14
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Looking at getting another Disco, this time the 02-04 Td5 which has the diff lock put back in, etc etc.

There's a quite a few with about 100,000kms on them for high $20's to low $30's for ones with leather, etc.

How many kms is starting to get long in the tooth with those Td5's? I do about 15-20k per year, plan to keep it for 3-5 years.

I want to get one with the lowest kms that i can, but what's a good cut-off - 100,000kms?

Thanks,
Nathan
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Reply By: nowimnumberone - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 18:34

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 18:34
we have a customer who just sold his td5 because he was sick of fixing it.
he says why is it every time i bring this thing in it needs something else expensive replaced(we show him whats stuffed)yet when i bring the hilux in nothings wrong with it lol
it had 88000 ks
anther recent td5 an old guy just bought of his daughter she should be ok he said always been serviced and i got i real cheap.
oil leaks from rocker cover tramsfer shockers pinion seal(again)
90000ks.
so a good one would have to be very low ks 10000.
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Follow Up By: NateK - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 18:44

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 18:44
thanks for that - but i can show you that on everything.

e.g. - my Hilux needs something replaced every time IT goes in for a service just like today...

pls keep the negative comments out as no manufacturer is deviod of problem cars.

i know the issues, i've had discos before.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 19:00

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 19:00
Good onya NateK - you might get more productive responses on the Australian Landrover Forum at http://www.aulro.com/afvb/index.php

Good Luck

Garry
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 19:25

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 19:25
NateK

Not once did nowimnumberone bag Landrovers, He just gave you what you wanted an honest answer, from what I have gathered from previous posts he is in the mechanical industry, so I guess he see's them all. Yes Toyotas require repairs, Yes Nissans require repairs, Yes ALL cars need repairs from time to time BUT if I recall you asked about Disco's. So thats what you got a reply about Disco's.

Cheers Stefan
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Follow Up By: NateK - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 19:46

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 19:46
i asked about good kms range. his reply was:

"we have a customer who just sold his td5 because he was sick of fixing it. he says why is it every time i bring this thing in it needs something else expensive replaced(we show him whats stuffed)yet when i bring the hilux in nothings wrong with it lol"

that's not what i was after.

yes, he did answer in the END by saying in the low 10's of thou would be good. but the extra crap was just a bag out of discos. not needed at all.

and i dun really care if he's in the industry as tons of the threads on this forum are about shoddy mechanical work!
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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 19:52

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 19:52
Nate,

You missed a bit when you copied nowimnumberone
He said 88000ks and then 90000ks as well as the recommending to buy on for 10000ks

What more did you want.

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Follow Up By: nowimnumberone - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 19:52

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 19:52
settle down natek.
you did ask a question so i gave you an answer.
what part of my answer is negative.
if you get this wound up about an answer how will you cope when something on your td5 goes wrong and your only interested in hearing good things about them.
lets see if i dont pay any attention to the bad things that people say about td5s and only listen to the good things they must be a fantastic vehicle and when something does go wrong it will be a post about.
i have a td5 i was lead to believe these are a bullet proof vehicle from what ive read.but mine seems to have developed an oil leak.has any one heard of this happening or am i the first?
chill out.
from what we see at work the biggest baggers of rangeys seem to be the owners who laugh about it most.

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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 19:54

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 19:54
"i asked about good kms range. his reply was"

>>>>we have a customer who just sold his td5 because he was sick of fixing it.
he says why is it every time i bring this thing in it needs something else expensive replaced(we show him whats stuffed)yet when i bring the hilux in nothings wrong with it lol
it had >>>>>>88000 ks>>>>anther recent td5 an old guy just bought of his daughter she should be ok he said always been serviced and i got i real cheap.
oil leaks from rocker cover tramsfer shockers pinion seal(again)
>>>>90000ks.<<<<<

He gave you an idea of what KM'S the problems happened at.
Mate read the whole answer.


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Follow Up By: garrycol - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 21:26

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 21:26
I agree with NateK - yes information was given but an opportunity to bag the TD5 and push HiLux was also taken. His question has nothing to do with HiLuxs.

Too often on this forum the opportunity is taken to give the answer the respondant wants to give rather than what was asked.

Just my view.

Garry
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Follow Up By: nowimnumberone - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 22:31

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 22:31
i think you miss read my answer
i wasnt bagging the td5 or pushing the hilux
the same guy owned both if he had a volvo i would have put
why is it every time i bring this thing in it needs something else expensive replaced(we show him whats stuffed)yet when i bring the VOLVO in nothings wrong with it lol.
tooften on this forum people put there finger in gear before the brain has been engaged and not read the whole answer.
as i said he asked what sort of ks are good
i gave him a cpl of examples of what ive seen at work.
if he had asked about any other type of car i would have gave him some examples of that one as well.

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Follow Up By: pathfinder - Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 13:46

Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 13:46
an example of people on generalist forums such as this commenting on things they have minimal direct experience of. Td5s do have some common problems, but knowing what they are means they can generally be avoided through modification/maintenance. The problems mentioned by the generously named 'nowimnumberone' actually aren't common problems (I've read elsewhere that Td5s regularly break rubber timing belts - bit of a shame that the cams are actually chain driven) - best to go to a specialist forum such as aulro to find out which are the common problems and what to do about them. Once you've got this knowledge, you should feel comfortable buying one that has over 100K k and enjoying its comfort and capability.

Cheers
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Reply By: Go Fishing - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 20:21

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 20:21
LOL :)))))

Love the 4WD wars.

P.S. If a car is a heap of junk, there's no use in sugar-counting things, it's still a dung heap.
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Reply By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 20:39

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 20:39
Hi Nathan, As a deefer owner with the 300 Tdi motor i can't give you first hand experience with the td5, but knowing quite a few that own them, IMHO i would not be to worried about buying one with 100- 150,000ks indicated, Providing it was 2003 and up, there were some issues on early models. Get on AULRO. there was a post up the other day 300tdi V Td5 goes on forever!!, But the final out come was the Td5 is basically shaping up to be as good as the isuzu 4bd1," And thats sayihg something"


Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: NateK - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 22:18

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 22:18
thanks, that's what i've noticed on AULRO.

basically it all comes down to servicing and maintenance.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 22:28

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 22:28
Yep! and like ALL alloy head small late model diesels, take all the precautions for over heating issues.

Cheers.
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Reply By: marcus - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 21:39

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 21:39
Hi NateK,
My mates td5 now has 260,000klm's on the clock and is going well with tons of life in it.They are a good truck but you know that already coz you are getting another one.
Cheers Mark
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Reply By: BMKal - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 04:32

Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 04:32
Hi NateK.

Mine's a bit earlier than what you're looking at. I've got an '02 TD5. Bought it with 73,000 km on the clock and so far it's only up to about 85,000. To date, other than regular servicing and adding a few accessories, plus some larger tyres, I've never spent a cent on it. I used to have it serviced at the local Landrover dealership in Kalgoorlie (where I bought it) but they've now shut down, so doing the basic servicing myself. When it needs more than I can do, I'll plan it around a trip to Perth.

Love all the earlier comments about how unreliable and expensive to repair they are supposed to be. Over the past 7 years, I've also had 4 Prado's (work cars). Three of them didn't give me any problem at all - I quite like them. The other one was a dog and ended up giving us that much grief, we got rid of it and replaced it with - yes - another Prado. So, based on this experience, should I be telling everyone that Prado's are a heap of crap. No - I accept that you'll get a lemon in any brand, and would happily recommend a Prado to anyone it that's the style of vehicle they're looking for.

By the way - I've previously owned a Range Rover (did have a few problems with that one, but I don't believe it had been properly maintained by previous owners), plus a Disco 1 V8, which I never had to put a spanner to outside of scheduled servicing in over 200,000 km.

Hope you find a good one - they're a great wagon.

Cheers ....... BM
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Follow Up By: NateK - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 11:45

Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 11:45
Thanks mate, I had a DiscoI V8 and the only thing i needed to do was replace the alternator (i knew that when i bought it) and it then gave me several years of total bliss, only servicing needing to be done.

I'm after an 02-04 upgrade model as I want the ones with the CDL put back in. It does limit me a bit, and damn Perth prices are way more than over east! Almost worth flying over, buying one there and driving it back.
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Follow Up By: Alan H - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 13:41

Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 13:41
Hi NateK.
I'm on my 3rd LR without any major problems on 2 of them.

1st was a 300tdi Disco which I had for around 4 years with only normal servicing which I do myself generally.
I did get a well known Australiawide company which flogs 4 x 4 bits to service the auto once and they stuffed it up, but did fix it eventually after the store owner gave the lads a good talking to.

2nd was a Defender Td5 I bought new at a good discount from a country dealer, now gone the way of many others.
No problems with that (and no oil leaks at all) until after the 3 year warranty ran out but I had the extended warranty and LRA/RACWA picked it up along with our camper plus sent a cheque for "out of pocket" expenses.
That was the Throttle Potentiometer which stuffed up.
It could have been driven but would have been a problem when requiring power for hills.
Come to think of it the above mentioned workshop stuffed the dual battery set up on this so the 2nd battery never received a charge, resulting in my having to get a jump off a hired Tojo (Oh the shame of it!) on the GRR when it wouldn't start, but again they fixed it and supplied a replacement battery.

I've now got a 300Tdi Defender as it's got no complicated electrics to go wrong, I've spent some money on it, more than I budgeted, but it runs very well, pulls the camper well and I anticipate keeping it for a long time.

The main thing with any vehicle, as others have said, is to check that servicing has been kept up and you'll have a vehicle which is very comfortable and reliable, certainly it'll be no more troublesome than some of the so called "bullet proof" vehicles around.
Happy motoring.
Alan.

PS. One of our club members did have major probs. with his Td5 Disco last year, but that was down to him not walking the puddle first, taking the wrong line and drowning it. Can't really blame that on the machine.
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Follow Up By: BMKal - Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 03:32

Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 03:32
Hi again Natek.

Understand you wanting to go for the update with the CDL. Another option might be to look at a pre '02/03 D2 - these still have the CDL, with only the actuator removed. Land Rover only removed the entire CDL for about one year, this mainly in the late '02 models. All other D2's still have CDL, but for reasons known only to Land Rover, they removed the actuator from the earlier D2's. After much criticism, they re-installed the lot in the update.

If you get hold of an earlier D2 with the CDL still installed, you can buy an actuator kit, which basically consists of a cable, bracket and replacement low range selector lever (with sideways movement in addition to the normal forward / backward movement for Hi / Lo selection). This kit is relatively easily to fit yourself if you are reasonably mechanically minded - there's a full description of the installation process in a recent post on AULRO.

Cheers .......... BM
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