trailer trailing arm suspension
Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:26
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Dave731
Hi,
Currently in the progress of desgining and (very) shortly building a camper trailer.
Going down this path due to some specific requirements we have for gear that is going to be carried in it along with all the regular equipment.
Currently looking at fitting it with independant trailing arm
suspension and wouldnt mind some suggestions.
Can anyone who has used any of the commercially available options provide coment as to the performance of what they have had fitted?
Has anoyone had success designing and building their own from scratch?
Thanks for any info you can provide.
Dave
Reply By: Mogul - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:33
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:33
Talk to these guys:
Trailer Parts Pty Ltd
81 Challenge Blv Wangara WA 6065
ph: (08) 9302 2800
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Follow Up By: Mogul - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:34
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:34
Was meant to add they do the independant
suspension for Pioneer Campers.
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Reply By: Kev & Darkie - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:35
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 20:35
Dave,
My offroad trailer has independant trailing arm leaf
suspension c/w shocks.
Very good to tow with both loaded and unloaded.
There is a
pic of the
suspension in my rig pics if you want to have a look.
Cheers Kev
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Reply By: Louie the fly - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:26
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 21:26
I started some preliminary drawings a while back for one with independent
suspension. Do you have a CAD package? They were done on AutoCAD R14 but will import into others. I can send it to you.
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Reply By: Scrubcat - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 22:22
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 22:22
Dave,
Google "Control rider" or "Simplicity", should get you heaps of info.
"Control Rider" supply it assembled to the dimensions you require
and you just bolt/weld it in position. I know you asked for design info to make it yourself but this may be an option.
You see a lot of both types under "offroad" vans and campers at caravan shows.
Cheers,
Scrubcat
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 22:22
Wednesday, Jan 09, 2008 at 22:22
Dave,
I've got some photos of
suspension on a
home made trailer. Give us an email address, and I'll send them through.
Bob.
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 12:42
Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 12:42
Our Campomatic has a trailing arm coil and shock setup - been trouble free. Seems most advanced ($$$) trailers and some caravans use this setup (Trakmaster sell a lot of their "sugar-glider" TA coil,and shock setup). Chief benefits as I know them are improved central ground clearance and the independent factor breaks up "harmonics" in the overall trailer as it rattles along rough roads (especially corrugations). Not sure if Campo made their own or bought the
suspension in as a unit (
mine was pre the Trakshak buyout) - there are various makers of "bolt on " systems. Anyone with high quality welding skills and equipment (plus metal cutting gear) could make one I suppose - ours looks rather simple in design - there is an eccentric bolt in the mix one side for correction of alignment. There must be a restraint mechanism of some sort to hold the
suspension together (ours is a webbing sling type) should a shocker go free - otherwise the spring will jump out and the whole lot collapses (uncommon, but has happened to some users).
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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 20:02
Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 20:02
Supreme Getaway caravans utilise the "Sugar Glider"
suspension as
well and I have been nothing but impressed with
mine. I have done so many k's on
mine that the front bushes flogged out and the whole swing arm could move at least an inch from side to side. Go around a corner and you would be waiting for the van to come around the corner behind you with a clunk as it locked fully to one side of the swing arm, very unnerving when two and a half tonnes is doing this at 90kph. Replaced front bushes and all is good for another 200 odd thousand k's.
Would definatly reccomend and use again.
Cheers, Trevor.
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Reply By: GaryW - Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 13:21
Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 13:21
Our Aussieswag has the Kanga trailing arm
suspension - They are in Albury - The trailer tows like a dream.
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Reply By: Trevor R (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 20:48
Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 20:48
You could also try these guys
LINK
Cheers, Trevor.
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Reply By: Richard W (NSW) - Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 22:06
Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 22:06
Dave,
I've just purchased a 10 year old lightweight hard top camper which has AL-KO rubberised
suspension and Bilstein Shocks. The previous owner towed it all around the country without any drama and it towed beautifully back from Qld which included some easy dirt. I don't think I'd do any serious tracks with it though.
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Follow Up By: Richard W (NSW) - Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 at 21:04
Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 at 21:04
Subsequent to the above post I took it for a shakedown at the AWABA 4WD training ground and it did pretty
well on the tracks. The standard coupling was at it's limit a couple of times so I might put on a treg or something similar.
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Reply By: Dave731 - Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 at 20:40
Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 at 20:40
Hello All,
Thanks for all the responses! Sorry I havent come back to the
forum but have been off interstate working.
Have come across most of what has been suggested and have rulled them out for a few reasons...
Sugar Glider
suspension runs out to $2400 with their hubs and brakes, The Gaffa
Suspension uses some odd imported shocker that seems difficult to replace and the Vehicle Components trailing arm
suspension (coils) only has 30mm of travel! (YES - 3 0 mm of travel!!)
Louie the offer of the CAD drawings is much appreciated - I have software that will let me open autocad files.
Bob Y - any images of what you have built would also be helpful
My email address is davedavezz@yahoo.com.au
Unfortunately unless I find another solution it seems the trailer may end up with leaf springs.....
Thanks again
Dave
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