Next G phones work on GSM simm card?
Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 17:48
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Member - Oldplodder (QLD)
Have been reliably told that a GSM simm card will work in a Next G phone. But only provide GSM coverage and
services - i.e. text and voice.
Anybody tried it?
We only sometimes use CDMA at the moment, GSM would handle what we do 80% of the time, so wondering if we transfered one of our CDMA phones over to GSM, and dropped in a prepaid Next G card for when we needed the coverage.
Yeah, I know, I am a cheap skate, but humour the old bloke :o)
Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 18:33
Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 18:33
Great,
Thanks to every one, just what I needed to know.
Yep, Have to buy a new mobile handset anyway to replace the CDMA, so might as
well put the money into a Next G handset, and get my number transfered to a GSM card. My GSM card will work in a locked telstra handset. Already tried it.
Can then get Next G prepaid for the occasional use outside
Brisbane.
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Follow Up By: MartyB - Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 23:17
Wednesday, Jan 16, 2008 at 23:17
Oldplodder,
Yes technically you can do this but why?
Sounds overcomplicated to me.
Why don't you just get a NextG handset with a NextG sim card?
Costs the same as a GSM card but you won't have to stuff around swapping sim cards or remembering which number is currently on the handset. Plus you wont have to pay extra for the prepaid.
If your are one of these people who only wants a phone to make calls then do what I did with my wife's NextG number. I rang Telstra and told them to bar it to the internet. They advised I won't be able to send MMS messages of watch Foxtel, I said so what and now have a NextG phone that only does phone calls & SMS's.
from Marty.
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 at 08:44
Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 at 08:44
Marty,
Some explanation is required.
We (family and family business) have 3 CDMA phones through Itel, a local provider based in
Ipswich, and have been using them for over 10 years and very happy with them. Good service and the rates are about half of Telstras for similar level of usage. They are Tesltra wholesalers, and bulk buy access off Telstra for GSM, CDMA, Internet access and land line access. Telstra has stuffed them up and will not release Next G to them to onsell. Fair enough, a business decision on the part of Telstra which I don't understand but will respect.
Now I have discovered that my Itel GSM cards (another 2 phones in the family/business) will work in Telstra locked phones. Itel have them issued through Telstra in some way. I would like to stick to Itel, so I am thinking of staying with Itel where I can. That is my business decision which I assume Telstra would respect.
We only need the CDMA coverage ocassionally when travelling for business or pleasure in country areas, so am planning to switch to mainly GSM for 80% of our use where it works, and use a Next G phone for the rest, most probably with a prepaid card a few times a year when on the road, and using the GSM card the rest of the time through Itel. We normally travel with two phones in the car, so won't be swapping simm cards on the road. What we save using Itel GSM (over 5 phones) will pay for the extra cost of the Next G handset in less than 6 months.
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Follow Up By: MartyB - Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 at 09:19
Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 at 09:19
Thanks for the reply
John.
Good to see you have a Telco you are happy with.
from Marty.
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Reply By: Hughd - Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 at 16:50
Thursday, Jan 17, 2008 at 16:50
NextG is a UMTS service, which means it uses wideband CDMA in the 850MHz band and GSM (TDMA) in the 1900,2100 MHz bands. It can roam from one to the other according to the signal available but the phone should prefer the W-CDMA.
For the higher level protocols (call establishment, progress and signalling) it uses the GSM mechanisms, and that is where the SIMM card comes in.
I have put a GSM SIMM card into my NextG phone, and it picked up fairly quickly on Vodaphone and made the requisite calls.
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